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Excuse my language, but its about fucking time someone took this bold step in protest of affirmative action.
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BRISTOL, R.I. -- A student group at Roger Williams University is offering a new scholarship for which only white students are eligible, a move they say is designed to protest affirmative action.

The application for the $50 award requires an essay on "why you are proud of your white heritage" and a recent picture to "confirm whiteness."

"Evidence of bleaching will disqualify applicants," says the application, issued by the university's College Republicans.

Jason Mattera, 20, who is president of the College Republicans, said the group is parodying minority scholarships.

"White kids are at a handicap," Mattera told The Providence Journal. "Handing out scholarships based on someone's color is absurd."

The stunt has angered some at the university, but the administration is staying of the fray. The school's provost said it is a student group's initiative and is not endorsed by Roger Williams.

Mattera, who is of Puerto Rican descent, is himself is a recipient of a $5,000 scholarship open only to a minority group.

"No matter what my ethnicity is, I'm making a statement that scholarships should be given out based on merit and need," he said.

It's not the first brush with controversy for the group. The school temporarily froze the Republicans' money in the fall during a fight over a series of articles published in its monthly newsletter. One article alleged that a gay-rights group indoctrinates students into homosexual sex.
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Its about damn time! Affirmative Action is the most hypocritical,racist, illegal, anti-equal-rights program ever. It is exactly the opposite of its intended purpose and provides such a ridiculous double standard. It,simply put, is just a dumbass idea and a turd of a program.
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Its about damn time! Affirmative Action is the most hypocritical,racist, illegal, anti-equal-rights program ever. It is exactly the opposite of its intended purpose and provides such a ridiculous double standard. It,simply put, is just a dumbass idea and a turd of a program.
pretty much how does it equal anything out if you only help a group? I mean I know a man of color who got 1000 for school yet his family makes more then mine *alot at that* and we have enough that we don't get any thing I also get better grades then him. So how does that help anyone? I mean explain this one to me.
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HAHA! "White's only"! I Love it!

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Mattera, who is of Puerto Rican descent, is himself is a recipient of a $5,000 scholarship open only to a minority group.

"No matter what my ethnicity is, I'm making a statement that scholarships should be given out based on merit and need," he said.
If thats so, then shouldnt he have refused such a scholarship since it was based on race? I mean there are white people out there with just as much merit and need as him! RRR....Its hard not to blow up about things like this!
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Yeah, I'm glad someone is finally doing something about this. Affirmative action could be the new slang phrase for 'hippocrasy'. I can't stand the fact that people have gotten away with it for so long and I wish a 'whites only' private college would open to further protest affirmative action! The sad thing is that 'racism' is only continuing to exist because 'minorities' continue to consider themsleves different than everyone else.
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Re: White's Only, others need not apply.....

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Instead of hypocrites that'd be "affirmative actors"
Affirmative action is really the most blatant, umitigated, stupidity existing today.
To promote "equality" by a giving a few people special privileges over others? How incredibly idiotic.
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Re: White's Only, others need not apply.....

Let me throw this in. Is it equal that most non-minority kids go to better schools that do most minotiry groups?
Is it equal that minority schools teachers are paid less than the non-minority schools teachers therfore the non-minority schools draw the better teachers?
Is it equal that a larger percentage of minorities live below the poverty level than do non-minorities?
I'm not a big proponent of affimative action but I understand and agree with the basic concept of it.
I do believe it has been abused in recent years but the idea of giving someone who is deserving and shows promise a hand that they didn't get growing up in a bad area is a good one. That doesn't mean that that hand should only go to minorities but anyone who shows promise and is obviously working to get out of the situation they were born into.
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Let me throw this in. Is it equal that most non-minority kids go to better schools that do most minotiry groups?
Is it equal that minority schools teachers are paid less than the non-minority schools teachers therfore the non-minority schools draw the better teachers?
Is it equal that a larger percentage of minorities live below the poverty level than do non-minorities?
I'm not a big proponent of affimative action but I understand and agree with the basic concept of it.
I do believe it has been abused in recent years but the idea of giving someone who is deserving and shows promise a hand that they didn't get growing up in a bad area is a good one. That doesn't mean that that hand should only go to minorities but anyone who shows promise and is obviously working to get out of the situation they were born into.
Nothing you say is inaccurate but what affirmative action does is penalize people for social inadequacies at the expense of people who had nothing to do with its cause. This is another example between the basis of liberals and conservatives. Liberals see those inadequacies and will move heaven and earth to right them regardless of the people it hurts along the way. Conservatives see the same inadequacies and will move heaven and earth to open the doors for people to make the way for themselves. The problem (as seen by liberals) is that it takes much longer and doesn’t punish the successful.













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Re: White's Only, others need not apply.....

seems like its one of those things which meets an action with a negative reaction. Not cool
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It's not often I agree with the Republicans,but on this occasion I do.Racism is racism,does'nt matter how you dress it up.

The hard fact is that not everyone on this planet is born equal.I could have had a much better life if I'd been born into the family of a multi-millionaire,but that's no reason for me to go seeking 'Affirmitive action' to bring me up into the luxury launch owners club.

There are many people of all races who could do with the occasional 'hand up'.They stand less chance of making it when others are creaming off the social spending in misguided handouts.

The world is getting smaller,and populations are getting more and more blended.It's time to accept that the colour of your skin is not a meal ticket as repayment for wrongs against your grandparents.

It's not just America either.Even in this country,there's an unseemly rush to get a hand in the PC poorbox.And when people who are as white as I am are eligigble for consolation prizes because their mother's sisters' brother-in-laws' great grandfather was killed in the settlement wars of the 1800's,the alarm bells ring loud.
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It's not often I agree with the Republicans,but on this occasion I do.Racism is racism,does'nt matter how you dress it up.

The hard fact is that not everyone on this planet is born equal.I could have had a much better life if I'd been born into the family of a multi-millionaire,but that's no reason for me to go seeking 'Affirmitive action' to bring me up into the luxury launch owners club.

There are many people of all races who could do with the occasional 'hand up'.They stand less chance of making it when others are creaming off the social spending in misguided handouts.

The world is getting smaller,and populations are getting more and more blended.It's time to accept that the colour of your skin is not a meal ticket as repayment for wrongs against your grandparents.

It's not just America either.Even in this country,there's an unseemly rush to get a hand in the PC poorbox.And when people who are as white as I am are eligigble for consolation prizes because their mother's sisters' brother-in-laws' great grandfather was killed in the settlement wars of the 1800's,the alarm bells ring loud.

DAMN MAN! I couldn't have said it better myself! It might make me feel like an ass-kisser to say so, but that was one of the best little rants against affirmative action I've ever seen! Right on!
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Affirmative action to me is basically minorites saying......"White People got to be rascist to us, so now its our turn." Instead of equality, minorities are proclaiming that they should be treated specialy instead of equally. If minorities can get money for school by being of a race other than whites why can't I get college grants for being white. Yes its true that most whites make more than ethnics but hell Im poor as shit, why can't I get grants for that? Oh because Im white so I must be rich
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Re: White's Only, others need not apply.....

As I said; I am not a big proponent of affirmative action but I understand and agree with the basic concept of it. I know that there is still a lot of prejudice out there and it comes from both sides. The problem is that there isn't a representative amount of minorities in positions of power to effect an even change in hiring practices. I'm not saying to hire someone who isn't qualified to do a job but the thread is about scholarships and that is what I'm addressing. I don't see how giving scholarships to someone who is deserving and shows promise is penalizing anyone. If there were no social inadequacies then that scolarship wouldn't exist and no one would get it. So either no one gets it or a minority gets it. How does that hurt a non minority? These scholarships are usually funded but companies and private donars who believe in the good it can do for those who are deserving.
As far as having a better life being born into a rich family. You could have had it a lot worse being born into a minority family in an inner city . If you were and desperatly wanted to get out how would you do it? Wouldn't you try and take advantage of whatever assistance was offered? What if there was nothing out there? There would be reason to try. Scholarships aren't abundant enough to help all those who are deserving. In fact they help very few in comparison to the amount they leave behind. So it's not like all the poor minorities are getting a free ride while all the poor non-minorities are suffering. It's a handfull of people who are getting a hand. Scholarships aren't easy to get and only are given out to those who most likely worked their butt off dispite the discouraging conditions they were born into and dispite the odds against them. Why would you want to take that away just so no one could have it?
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As I said; I am not a big proponent of affirmative action but I understand and agree with the basic concept of it. I know that there is still a lot of prejudice out there and it comes from both sides. The problem is that there isn't a representative amount of minorities in positions of power to effect an even change in hiring practices. I'm not saying to hire someone who isn't qualified to do a job but the thread is about scholarships and that is what I'm addressing. I don't see how giving scholarships to someone who is deserving and shows promise is penalizing anyone. If there were no social inadequacies then that scolarship wouldn't exist and no one would get it. So either no one gets it or a minority gets it. How does that hurt a non minority? These scholarships are usually funded but companies and private donars who believe in the good it can do for those who are deserving.
As far as having a better life being born into a rich family. You could have had it a lot worse being born into a minority family in an inner city . If you were and desperatly wanted to get out how would you do it? Wouldn't you try and take advantage of whatever assistance was offered? What if there was nothing out there? There would be reason to try. Scholarships aren't abundant enough to help all those who are deserving. In fact they help very few in comparison to the amount they leave behind. So it's not like all the poor minorities are getting a free ride while all the poor non-minorities are suffering. It's a handfull of people who are getting a hand. Scholarships aren't easy to get and only are given out to those who most likely worked their butt off dispite the discouraging conditions they were born into and dispite the odds against them. Why would you want to take that away just so no one could have it?
I see what you're saying. However, its things like affirmative action that keep fueling the fire of racism. IMO.
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