Z28 vs. Eclipse GSX vs. GST

[joemathews]

Okay, I'm looking into some performance cars here...just sold my '94 Camaro V6 auto, and I'm trying to get something a bit quicker and in manual. Considering these three cars are about the same price for ones with comparable mileage (+/- $1k), which would win in the 1/4 mile after basic mods (intake, headers, exhaust)? I also need something that is going to be a reliable daily driver...your thoughts on that with these vehicles?

[HotBoys09]

LOL, your loking at 3 different cars with 3 different drivetrains. But anyway both of those Eclipses (to my knowledge), use te same turbocharged engine, but the GSX is AWD. But anyhow, they are no match for a z28. My probe beat a GT-S, and barely lost to a GSX, and I got murdered by a Z. Hope that helps.

[bigfoot2471]

a Z will be any of those cars if they all had the same mods. Z has fastests stock time same mods Z still wins. the thing you have to remember is the difference between an eclipse and a camaro. obvious things like fwd vs rwd. lighter car vs torque up the ass. Decide what you want in that aspect. they are similiar in times but other then that your looking at two completely different cars. In the end you have to decide for yourself dont listen to other people.

[joemathews]

Yea, I do realize that I'm lookin at a RWD, a FWD, and an AWD, but they each have their advantages and disadvantages...well...maybe the FWD doesn't really have any advantages lol. But I've heard of 60 ft. times sub-2 sec. in the GSX, like 1.8's. Very few Z28's could post this kind of time. But I suspect they would make it up quickly. Anyway, how reliable are Z28's, because they have 4 more cylinders to blow seals, crack pistons, other hassles!

[youngvr4]

joe mathews, i by no means lean toward one side or the other when it comes to import and muscle, but stock a Z28 will kill a eclipse. now there is a diff between intake and a boost controler, if you buy a boost controler you can gain an instant 40 hp add intake and headers and exhaust and you will be in mid 13's maybe low 13's, but you would need to buy a super afc fuel controller also. boost controllers don't cos anything. but same thing to the Z28(headers intake and exhaust) and you will also be in the low 13's. as the Z28 runs about 14.0 stock and eclipse run 15.1

basically a boost controller wich cost nothing but 20 bucks can put you at the same speed as a Z28. but stock for stock

hehehe......... muscle!

[BlkCamaroSS]

It's not hard to post that time at all with good rubber in a V8 F-body. Keep in mind that launching with AWD is press and go, while it takes talent to launch a RWD car without spin, and do it well. Also, any car is as reliable as you treat it. If you bang the gears every weekend launching down the track, I don't care if you have a GSX or a Z28, you're gonna have problems.

[Lamborsari_Merbini]

no question that the Z28 beats both the Eclipses here. its not even debatable lol. if you modded the eclipse relatively heavily to a stock Z28 it would be a bit closer but i assume you mean stock so definately the Z28 and its american muscle. well im here i guess i should say sorry about losing the Camaro/Firebird they were great cars

[1965PontiacGTO]

I like the Camaro Z28, mostly because the eclipse being a japanese car and because I like american cars. Z28 rules

[youngvr4]

Originally Posted by Lamborsari_Merbini

no question that the Z28 beats both the Eclipses here. its not even debatable lol. if you modded the eclipse relatively heavily to a stock Z28 it would be a bit closer but i assume you mean stock so definately the Z28 and its american muscle. well im here i guess i should say sorry about losing the Camaro/Firebird they were great cars

eclipse doesn't need much to run with a Z28, just a boost controller and they run 14.1-13.9. thats not heavily modded at all. simply because a boost controller ads an instant 40hp by boosting up the psi by 4

[drvngstorm05]

Originally Posted by youngvr4

eclipse doesn't need much to run with a Z28, just a boost controller and they run 14.1-13.9. thats not heavily modded at all. simply because a boost controller ads an instant 40hp by boosting up the psi by 4

hey bro, no offense but i've seen plenty of stock ls1's running mid 13's on the track, the difference between 13.9 and 13.5 is hardly what i call "running with"

[BlkCamaroSS]

My car just had the LM exhaust on it when it ran a 13.575 , and that was a year and a half ago. It would be interesting to see what I'd run now...

[joemathews]

I wasn't talkin about running a GST or GSX against an SS lol. But check out 95gsxracer's car...I believe he's spent about 1700 on mods, and is running high 11's in his GSX--at almost 400whp. I'd like to see a camaro with $1700 worth of mods post that kind of time...

[broddie50]

Seems you've got your mind made up already... And 11's with only 1700 beans? B.S. You'd like to see a camaro with $1700 worth a mods post... You can't, cause your GSXRC3PO would be 5 BUS lengthes behind in the 1/4. IMPORTS CAN'T HANG IN THE QUARTER! I'm tired of people saying Well, my 400 hp "insert import here" just beat a stang or maro. If they were stock, I hope you did. Imports are just not on the same level as "we" are when it comes to straight line speed. The manufactures' never claimed to be. At a closed circuit track, sure a lot of imports can dust off pony cars. But don't ever compare the two in the 1/4 mile. Get the Z28!

[bigfoot2471]

no offense and i love camaros to but your living in a dream world if you think camaro will never get beaten by imports. it does happen. they are far from stock with lots of time and money but it happens. i still say get the Z

[broddie50]

Never said an import couldn't bet a Z. Read my post again. If you have 400 hp car, then you should spank a 260 or 320 hp car. I've seen imports beat maro's, stangs, and birds. But if one those domestic owners got serious, and put 10 grand underneath the hood, then it's not even a contest. The Supra, RX-7 and 3000VR4 owners are the pony cars true comp. when it comes to straight line speed, not an integra.