How much longer..

[MR2-AW11]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3454783.stm

Why oh why do republicans keep neglecting truth... You are blind faithed to a political group.. it's so sad.

I mean obviously they can't lie forever, but.. constantly they are 'softening up facts', changing facts, manipulating/twisting/whatever. It's such hypocricy it's disgusting.

Again there's the attempt of "oh the intelligence people lets blame them" or anyone else for that matter. It's laughable when bush, blair and their comrades are the ones asking for an investigation into intel..

I mean hello people? The real link to 911 who actually did it is non existant, yes osama supposingly claimed it afterwards but in reality the video that actually the US used to claim that osama was linked was a fake tailored video.

On top of that engineers/scientists performed tests/analysis and the way towers fell, etc.. the plane was not enough, it was so much bullshit, those cell phones couldn't have phoned that made the last minute 'loved ones' good byes.. and funniest of all the passports that were found.. out of all the rubble and lack of ability to find all bodies after towers collapsed, the passports magically flew out of terrorists pockets into rubble err into hands of investigators.

And then iraq.. the massive attempts of "wmd, chemical, nuclear stockpiles, then eventually program, then eventually plans for a program, then nothing, then oh well at least we got saddam, etc.. etc..

I mean hey the US invaded two countries in last little while.. hello? Especially iraq.. on top of that playing dangerous games wanting to attack iran/syria, possibly even lebanon the way things were going.

How much longer can you have blind faith in a group that lies, have you no moral that you are supporting liars, criminals, crooks/corrupted whatever... individuals/groups, whether it be bush, blair, sharon, their sub-level ranks.. etc...

So much double standards, lies, hypocricy.. will it ever end!

[DGB454]

You are linking to the BBC? Seriously? Hello?
Might as well link to the National Enquirer.

[taranaki]

Originally Posted by DGB454

You are linking to the BBC? Seriously? Hello?
Might as well link to the National Enquirer.

First rule of Republican P.R. - any source of news or opinion that is critical of Mr Bush cant possibly be a credible news source.

The BBC does a damn good job of reflecting British public opinion,which was opposed to their own troops getting involved in Mr Bush's sand dune follies.

[DGB454]

So British public opinion was to do a smear on Blair?
Besides it's not about being a Bush supporter. I have pretty much kept silent about Bush but if the truth be known I would rather vote for a different Republican than Bush. Chances are I will probably vote democrat this round. If I could only find one that won't raise taxes but that's like looking for a needle in a haystack.

[YogsVR4]

Ahh the rehtoric of the left. It so amusing

How much longer can you have blind faith in a group that lies, have you no moral that you are supporting liars, criminals, crooks/corrupted whatever... individuals/groups, whether it be bush, blair, sharon, their sub-level ranks.. etc...

So much double standards, lies, hypocricy.. will it ever end!

and

any source of news or opinion that is critical of Mr Bush cant possibly be a credible news source.

Gee who's doing the smearing in this thread

Adding in the fact the left can rarely tell how silly they sound just makes it all that more amusing

[TexasF355F1]

Originally Posted by taranaki

First rule of Republican P.R. - any source of news or opinion that is critical of Mr Bush cant possibly be a credible news source.

First rule of the Democratic P.R. - any source of news or opinion that supports any republican can't possibly be a credible news source.

It's amazing how things work both ways isn' it?

[MR2-AW11]

However a few things only go your way. Like avoiding admiting your party/group/supported group/whatever lied and you basically lie in their name but anyways. Hypocricy is beatiful when it's coming out of your opponent

[YogsVR4]

MR2, based on what I've read from you so far, I can't decide if you are just annoying or not all that smart. I suppose it could be both.

[Flatrater]

I wonder what we would post about if we had a democratic president! They never do anything wrong according to everyone and all the leftist media!

Hopefully we elect Bush again just so we have a reason to post here! Maybe we should PM Igor to closed this forum during democratic presidents!

[2strokebloke]

I'm not going to vote Dem, or Rep - 'cause they both suck.
You right wing maniacs are pretty flaky - you act as though you'd never say anything against a democratic president, but you know you would in a heartbeat, even over the most insignificant thing. But you still act as though only the lefties would do such a thing...
Face up to it, if a Democratic leader launched a war for unproven, and sketchy reasons, all the republicans would be foaming at the mouth - of course a Democratic leader wouldn't have the guts to launch an uneeded war.
I'd vote whig if that party still existed, just for fun - we need a little variety, seeing as how boring and useless the two main parties have been in the past few decades.

[Marc04]

after seein that, i think what a lot of people forget is that Powel at first didn't really support the war, he was very carefull about how he worded things, untill i'm sure Bush got pissed and told him to start acting right

[Cbass]

Originally Posted by Flatrater

I wonder what we would post about if we had a democratic president! They never do anything wrong according to everyone and all the leftist media!

Leftist media... I hear this claim quite often, and it's absurd. CNN, the company owned by Ted Turner himself, has been flooding the airwaves and cable channels with sickenly pro-Bush garbage since 9/11, when overnight it became "unpatriotic" to question the government or the president in anything they say or do.

The still shots of Bush are always in "the visionary pose", with him looking up and away, at something seemingly distant, with an expression of deep thought. They have refused to say a bad word about him, when anything has been even questioning a minute detail of the administration policy, it has always been spoken by a guest, who is then shouted down and berrated by another guest. They gave almost no coverage to the PATRIOT act, or PATRIOT 2, which is being slowly filtered through in other ammendments to the constitution. There was no question on CNN before the war in Iraq of whether it was just or not, it was simply repeating exaggerated claims of weapons of mass destructions, horror stories of unspeakable attrocities and other such propaganda...

Face it, the furthest to the left mainstream media outlet has dutifully towed the line for over 2 years now. The only major media source that dares question the Bush administration is the Washington Post, and even then it's in the back pages. [cue rant=YogsVR4][/rant]

Now let me guess, Fox news is the only honest news source, they speak the gospel truth, and Bill O'Reilly is the only man who tells it like it is.

Originally Posted by Flatrater

Hopefully we elect Bush again just so we have a reason to post here! Maybe we should PM Igor to closed this forum during democratic presidents!

So it's a given that anyone who disagrees with the republicans is a democrat?

[originalmike]

Originally Posted by MR2-AW11

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I mean hello people? The real link to 911 who actually did it is non existant, yes osama supposingly claimed it afterwards but in reality the video that actually the US used to claim that osama was linked was a fake tailored video.

On top of that engineers/scientists performed tests/analysis and the way towers fell, etc.. the plane was not enough, it was so much bullshit, those cell phones couldn't have phoned that made the last minute 'loved ones' good byes.. and funniest of all the passports that were found.. out of all the rubble and lack of ability to find all bodies after towers collapsed, the passports magically flew out of terrorists pockets into rubble err into hands of investigators.

...

How much longer can you have blind faith in a group that lies, have you no moral that you are supporting liars, criminals, crooks/corrupted whatever... individuals/groups, whether it be bush, blair, sharon, their sub-level ranks.. etc...

So much double standards, lies, hypocricy.. will it ever end!

I personally don't see why Osama would claim to have destroyed the world trade center if he hadn't. And, if the plane was not enough, what did make the World Trade Center calapse? Bush's will? Even though I believe Bush wanted to go to war in the middle east a really doubt he would destroy the World Trade Center and kill all those people.

I believe our country does not have very much "blind faith" and many people our country have a healthy skepticism of our president and the workings of our government. Also, I believe Bush has proven himself as a bad president and I believe he will not get reelected.

[blindside.AMG]

Originally Posted by MR2-AW11

On top of that engineers/scientists performed tests/analysis and the way towers fell, etc.. the plane was not enough, it was so much bullshit

So you're saying that the US government secretly flew the planes into the building AND planted some special explosives that can't be seen or heard when they ignite into the infrastructure of the building? On top of that, they did it without anybody knowing?

[MR2-AW11]

The only way those buildings could have fallen all the way down was through implosion and synchronously placed precise explosives.

The airplane exploded and that was it, that was the most deadly moment, otherwise the burning effect, well it would have burned not through still.. and the part that it did, the worst that could have happened was the top part sort of falling off 'chopping because the most crucial point of impact would have been the weakened part, so it would have sort of fallen off at most.. but what happened, a total collapse downwards which was synchronous.

On top of that why were say, saudi diplomats deported while all flights were stopped? Why didn't 200 israelis show up for work that day? Why did that report on foxnews of israeli spyring become classified? I have the report on archive Why did Sharon's advisers make Sharon cancel his flight to New york that day especially that area?

It's all 'coincidences' falling into a theory, but man that's too many coincidences. Not trying to sound like BUSH with theories.. but at least these coincidences.. they are more then bush's imagination

Oh and supposingly that very morning bush sr. was meeting with a member of the bin laden family from saudi arabia.. what are the chances of that haha.

Also explain to me most of all how the PASSPORTS of those 'terrorists' found their way MAGICALLY into ground zero and even though BODIES could not be found out of all the rubble those PASSPORTS were found.

And the cell phone of the 'heroes' who called their families saying they would fight terrorists to their death or whatever, err.. a computer science professor at waterloo made an experiment with a private airplane and a variety of cell phones and maybe like 2% of them functioned properly.. so wow another one in a million chance..

Or what about the other downed plane which most assume being shot even media did.

And then the 'mysterious' pentagon explosion which just doesn't count up for a giant airplane... it's jokes..

Oh and last but not least kissinger was hired as part of investigation team.. what are the chances of a REAL conspiracy theorist/cold era liar-coverup superhero(not), to be hired for this sort of thing... wow