newbie here about camaro engine

[kevinq]

hi im only 14 and plan to buy a car this summer...i want to buy a 1970 camaro and buy a new engine and headers and stuff from jegs and build it with my dad. i really need someone to explain to me what i need for the engines from jegs...

i was looking at the "Deluxe HO engine with 64cc chamber Iron Vortec Heads" from jegs...it a 330HP.....is this a good engine??? how fast in speed is it???....i also want to get new headers....do i need a specific kind a headers??? like 70 camaro?? or SBC???

please help me get to know how all this works and what else i ened to know to biuld my car... thanx guys

[Vlad_Tepes]

Create motor from jegs is great.
As for headers you have to get the ones for your car. for you it would be a 1970 SBC Camaro.
Speed well that all depends on what tranny and rear end you have.

First thing you got to figure out is what do you want your car to do? street or strip... from there you build accordingly

[kevinq]

o yes i forgot to add that....this is gonna be an everyday street car....so im gonna need it to handle well enough and not have crap parts in it to crap out on me....

im planning on getting that engine only because it had holley carb and iron heads and evrything already with it...i really dont have to buy much other then that and few other things...i also plan to get the new headers...so u think i should get a whole new exhaust system???? i was planning to... also if i need it new trans..

also sry but what do u mean by rear end??? will ahve to change anything on that??

[89IROC&RS]

nice overall idea man, i always had a hard on for the 1970 camaro with the LT1 and the split front bumper. but you are square on with your idea of the 70 with the Vortec headed small block. 330hp is plenty for your first outing. you would have to look at milage and condition of your trans and rear end to see if they need any attention. if they are ok, dont worry about it. i mean, a posi rear end is always a good idea, and if you live around snow or rain, they are a worth while investment. and a trans rebuild is always a good idea, a kit from B&M is a great idea. but with a 30 year old car, i would reccomend suspension upgrades, eibach springs, edelbrock IAS shocks, newer, bigger tires, say, 245/50R16's all the way around. on 16x8 in rims. the exhaust is up to you. the vortec heads love good airflow, the stock exhaust will be slightly restrictive. so an aftermarket one is always a good idea, but it all depends on the money you have. the crate engine is a great start. and will respond extreamly well to mods, say an xtream energy cam, porting and polishing, and stuffing them with oversize 2.02/1.6in valves. edelbrock performer RPM manifold and a 750cfm carb. upgrading the brakes with aftermarket four wheel disk brakes will be a very good idea. but thats all down the road. i think that the crate engine in the 70 camaro iis a great start, well balanced, and still fun. very nice choice i have to say.

[cannibalrights]

First of all....Good luck trying to find a 70 Camaro. I found my 79 tottally on accident. And if its in any good shape what so ever, its gonna coast a few. If its a hunk of junk that you get for a couple hundred bucks, then your gonna spend even more money on interior, exterior, body parts ect... I say buy a 3rd gen like 89IROC&RS has and work on that. Those are alot easyer to find. And you could find a pretty good one for not that much. Finding a decent 70....even if you do its wheel wells/sub frame is more than likely starting to rot. Thats where they tend to get it the most...Mines a beaut, and it was pure luck on my part... Like winning the lottery lol

[cannibalrights]

you can get headers from Advanced Auto Parts for like $99 bucks. There Flowmaster wich are pretty good. Just go there and tell 'em what you got and they'll help you out. I'm giving up on buying exhaust for mine, I'm just gonna make the exhaust myself at school. Get a creat engine. I hope you and your dad are rich...

[kevinq]

ok well now that u sed that im 50/50.....please people give me ur thoughts on wut i should do...is till want to get a 1970 camaro...but he(^^) sed im gonna have to do alotta work....i plan on it..i want to do it all over the summer...

but should i get it or???? what do u guys think???

[Genopsyde]

owning a camaro period is a wonderful thing, no matter what year, so do this, find about 3 different ones that are in your price range, and get the one that's in the best condition and needs less money put into it, that way you won't have any regrets.

[Hypsi87]

personally I would go with a 3rd gen. A crate engine will eat a 16 year old out of house and home. no gas mileage.

[kevinq]

3rd gen is wut years?? ill start to look into that once u give me the years....i just wnated a 1970 camareo because it looks so nice....but if i look around and like something else then i will look into it...so what yearsd are they??

[IROC_Icarus]

3rd gens are 82-92 my friend. I would be a little cautious building up a 70 camaro for your first ride. 1, insurance, if you are riding around in a hotrod that is worth 10-15k then expect to pay quite a bit. 2, wrecking, most teenagers will end up wrecking/damaging their first car, do you really want to put all kinds of money into a car and then end up hurting it? Do you trust yourself with 330hp? Don't deny you will hammer that mofo every chance you gey that is unless you baby it and keep it under 3000rpm all the time. If you do get one, be careful, we don't want to lose any more camaros err... teens than we already have.

[kevinq]

o beleive me...once in a while i prolly will get up on it...but im not liek most teens..ive very veyr respocible for my age.....wuty do u think the frame and things will be good as long as i take my time and pick a good one??? because i dont want to spend 2,000 an frame and have a break on me...lol

thanks for the help guys....

[89IROC&RS]

the most important thing to remember, when buying any car, not just a camaro, is to do your research. go into it with the plan of knowing more about the car than the owner does. find out what all the build codes mean, and decode them in front of the owner, checking to make sure that, if it says it has a rear defogger, that the rear widnow has a defogger in it. that kinda stuff. if it is at all possible put it up on a lift, check all the suspension, look at the underbody for damage, for rust, heaven forbid, missing parts lol. and if youve done your homework well enough, you should have a spiral notebook of facts, figures, and numbers to check against the car. make alist of things to look at, especially if you have to drive it home. check the oil, belts, test drive it and listen for squeeks rattles or thunks. oh and do the test drive before the lift, so you can look at all the areas the noises were comeing from and look for trouble. shop around, get an idea of fair pricing, that way you can negociate, bring print outs of cars for sale, so you can show the seller, and be like, a car in this condition, with these options, sells for this much, your asking this much, will you take this much, that kinda stuff. i talked my IROC down from 2800 to 2300 that way. the 500 bucks i saved will cover the price of new brakes all the way round the car, all four rotors, and all the pads for all four sides, which are desperaetly needed.

now, as far as the third gen delema. its one of those things where you gonna have to show how more mature you are than your age. my dream car, and the one i was hard headedly shopping for when i found my RS, was a 1970 Chevelle. want one bad to this day. but the cheapest one in decent condition that i could drive every day, would be 12,000. found the RS for 3000. beter gas mileage, safer on the road, better handling, more options, better daily driver, and for 1/4 the purchase price. third gen camaros are amazing performance platforms. older cars are not. first time i took a 1978 Z28 for a spin, thought i was gonna kill myself, it was pretty quick strait line, but the first time i took a turn, thought she would roll on me. IROC went through twisty mountain roads one handed at 100mph with no noticable body roll, and thats stock. so you can always do the right thing now, buy the cheaper, better, newer car, and then when you get older and have a wife to give you a hard time about it, buy the older hot rod

[kevinq]

if i wasnt to get the 1970 camaro....what year would u recommend to me?? in recent years that is...???

[89IROC&RS]

oh and if your interested, the black RS you see in my sig is now for sale. ive had it four years, maintained it with all AC delco parts, im a chevy tech, did all work myself, has a one year old jasper rebuilt engine in it. needs a trans rebuild, but still runs just fine. oh and there is a lincoln shaped dent in the driver side of the car. lol. needs a new driver side door, and rear driver side quarter panel. it drives just fine, passes inspection, and emmissions, door opens and closes, just kinda a eyesore to someone who loves the car as much as i do. only reason im selling is cuz now i have the IROC and i cant afford to keep both. or repair the RS righ now for that matter. so shes gotta go. if your interested, PM me your email address, and ill send you pics of the damage.