Skyline

[SeCrEtMoDdEr]

ugh, yah, i drew a skyline a couple months ago, i had to rush it cuz it was for school so the shading isnt good. ummmm, i used a stomp for this, and im wondering if theres a way to use it to make shading look better, because each time i use it, it makes it much darkers and it just smudges it. SOOOO any tips on whether i should use stomps or not would be great. Im talking to you aseanz, how to you shade your stuff. thnx, and heres the pic, i hope this crap works:

[img]C:Documents and SettingsDark KnightMy DocumentsDoms Folderskyline 003.jpg[/img]

**edit** OK< DAMN< it's on my site then, PG. 9

ok here it is : www.cardomain.com/id/mad_psychopath
hope that works, if not, then someone say "boob"

**edit** Actually, someone say "boob" anyways, along with what they think of my skyline.

[SeeTheSkyline]

nope didnt work

[quarter_mile]

is this the one?



if so, it's pretty cool, shading n everything rules.

uh...boob?

[SeCrEtMoDdEr]

thnx for posting the pic, i cant for sum gay reason, but meh, thnx. i dont like the rims, and i rushed, but yah, thnx, i need aseanz to give me sum shading tips, lol, stomp or nomp, or no or something like that.

[jordanmc2399]

cool man, did u look off a pic?

[SeCrEtMoDdEr]

i had a 1:18 model of that skyline so i drew according to that. The "SS Tuner" skyline. no pic, just the model.

[jordanmc2399]

pretty good for looking off a model

[bonzelite]

you get an 'a' for effort, but your whole sense of perspective is way off. it is like a cubist car. you are having trouble visualizing and placing planes and elipses in correct, or, rather, convincingly correct, dimensional space. learn the basics of perspective first. then try it again. nevermind shading and other stuff. you need to go back to basic lines. get a book on it. heed vanishing points. etc... then you will be able to "see" the model better. right now you are all over the map.

[Zcaithaca]

the rear wheels a little off but i love the overall feel of the picture...i also love the seats!

[SeCrEtMoDdEr]

what do you mean by "all over the map" and i rushed this drawing, it was for my art class in high school and i had to finish it in time so i didnt really care about it being good. if i spent more time on it im sure it would look better.

but yah, thnx for the replies

[bonzelite]

Originally Posted by SeCrEtMoDdEr

what do you mean by "all over the map" and i rushed this drawing, it was for my art class in high school and i had to finish it in time so i didnt really care about it being good. if i spent more time on it im sure it would look better.

but yah, thnx for the replies

bear in mind that i am trying to help you eventhough you will not like what i am telling you. your reply is typical of young students: you rushed the drawing. or you didn't really care. but i am telling you an artist with concrete knowledge of perspective can rush through anything and it will not matter, it will not be an excuse. your artwork is the truth serum: you have little knowledge of perspective and recession into space. your drawing is all over the map because you have the grille, the roof, the wheels, the seats, on conflicting planes in perspective so the car looks generally "cubist" or off. you are not aware of vanishing points into space when you are drawing, as you are enamored by the shading and the pride in that execution. this is very clear from the rendering. you can not talk around it. the drawing reveals what you were thinking and what you were NOT thinking about. and it does it instantly.

also, you can spend three months on that drawing. and if you still remain unaware of the laws of perspective, you will not generate a stronger picture. drawing a car is basically an excercise in engineering drawing. you have a good grasp of lighting, shading, etc, but lack an intuitive sense of foreshortening of objects in space. your wheels give that dead away. instead of defending your weaknesses as if they are okay, get a book on basic drafting, as you will only be helping yourself further the cause. do you dig that?

[jordanmc2399]

[quote]uh...boob?[quote]

lol, everytime i look at this it makes me laugh.

bonzelite, i sorta get what yuour saying, like how his wheels shouldn't look like that, and other stuff, but keep in mind he was looking off a scale model.

[HighOctaneNOSUser]

Not to get on anyone's bad-side or anything, but I don't believe we have seen your drawings, Bonzelite. I know, you haven't seen mine, that is why I don't criticize. Because I don't have any proof that mine are better. So maybe if we see that your drawings are as good as you say, we'll let you criticize others...That seems fair.

[quarter_mile]

Originally Posted by HighOctaneNOSUser

Not to get on anyone's bad-side or anything, but I don't believe we have seen your drawings, Bonzelite. I know, you haven't seen mine, that is why I don't criticize. Because I don't have any proof that mine are better. So maybe if we see that your drawings are as good as you say, we'll let you criticize others...That seems fair.

people usually say that, but i believe if you have something that can truly give the person constructive criticism and help then that's that, regardless of drawing ablility.

Just like on the 'Idol' shows, the judges can't sing for crap but can still offer the contestants constructive feedback.



Just my 2 cents

[bonzelite]

[quote=jordanmc2399][quote]uh...boob?

lol, everytime i look at this it makes me laugh.

bonzelite, i sorta get what yuour saying, like how his wheels shouldn't look like that, and other stuff, but keep in mind he was looking off a scale model.

i know that. you will be able to "see" anything better, especially live models, if you pay attention to perspective. if you are not conditioned to seeing objects this way, in perspective, then it will be very clear. that is my whole point, btw. i am not in doubt of his drawing ability or talent. he has both. now refine it. i am imparting my critique because i see that he is trying hard and can use some teaching. the raw material is there. just a bit more technical skill, and, bam, the guy is awesome. my hope is that he KEEPS drawing more and more.

the thing is, if you post a drawing and there are things about it that are distracting, then instantly you open yourself up to criticism. so it is a brave act to post anything at all. and i see that, too.

dead giveaways for car drawing problems are bad elipses of the wheels, wrong or off-looking proportions of the body, and incorrect use of perspective.