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The Media Never Reported This!!

The next time you hear a network news story, or read a newspaper, keep these facts in mind and ask, why isn't this being reported? Below is the list that NEVER makes the Media Moguls' "news" headlines. They just keep printing the explosions, shootings, deaths and failures. Have faith!

"Since May 1..."

Since May 1...the first battalion of the new Iraqi Army has graduated and is on active duty*

Since May 1... over 60,000 Iraqis now provide security to their fellow citizens.

Since May 1...nearly all of Iraq's 400 courts are functioning.

Since May 1... the Iraqi judiciary is fully independent.

Since May 1...on Monday, October 6 power generation hit 4,518 megawatts-exceeding the pre-war average.

Since May 1...all 22 universities and 43 technical institutes and colleges are open, as are nearly all primary and secondary schools.

Since May 1... as of October 1, Coalition forces had rehabbed over 1,500 schools - 500 more than their target.

Since May 1... teachers earn from 12 to 25 times their former salaries.

Since May 1...all 240 hospitals and more than 1200 clinics are open.

Since May 1...doctors' salaries are at least eight times what they were under Saddam.

Since May 1...pharmaceutical distribution has gone from essentially nothing to 700 tons in May to a current total of 12,000 tons.

Since May 1...the Coalition has helped administer over 22 million vaccinations doses to Iraq's children.

Since May 1...a Coalition program has cleared over 14,000 kilometers of Iraq's 27,000 kilometers of weed-choked canals. They now irrigate tens of thousands of farms. This project has created jobs for more than 100,000 Iraqi men and women.

Since May 1...we have restored over three-quarters of pre-war telephone services and over two-thirds of the potable water production.

Since May 1... there are 4,900 full-service connections. We expect 50,000 by January first.

Since May 1...the wheels of commerce are turning. From bicycles to satellite dishes to cars and trucks, businesses are coming to life in all major cities and towns.

Since May 1...95 percent of all pre-war bank customers have service and first-time customers are opening accounts daily.

Since May 1... Iraqi banks are making loans to finance businesses.

Since May 1...the central bank is fully independent.

Since May 1... Iraq has some of the world's most growth-oriented investment and banking laws.

Since May 1... Iraq (has) a single, unified currency for the first time in 15 years.



So, stuff it Dan Rather, Peter Jennings, and most of all Christiane Anampour and CNN (who seems to still be working for Saddam)!
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Re: The Media Never Reported This!!

Because they had many of these things before the war but the US destroyed/damaged/stalled them..

I disagree with alot of those.. the vaccine one.. for example, I don't trust US vaccines hah.. nor the potential GM food market which they so exquisitly expect to produce, nor the over the top government, nor the over top currency/resources/education/media... right..

Where did you get these statistics though? Not that I do not belive it.
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Re: The Media Never Reported This!!

If all is as rosy as you paint it,why is the U.S, STILL THERE?

Itend to believe the video images of burning cars and bodies being pulled out of bomb craters,of helicopter wreckage and nervous Marines waving heavy-calibre weapons,rather than a few unsubstantiated 'facts'.Here's one genuine fact that puts your argument into perspective....The mortality figure for U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq passed 500 last week.The majority of these brave young people have died since the Bush declared the 'bulk of the fighting to be over' on May 1st.

I ran a quick Google search of a couple of unique phrases in this feel-good-patriot piece of nonsense.It came back with 292 matches,cut pasted tomainly right wing flag-waving sites.I couldn't find a single bona fide news organisation among the 292 matches.Hardly surprising really.
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While you can claim its rhetoric from the right, which is in the same vein as the rhetoric from the left that we see so often around here, all those facts come from an October speech by Paul Bremer.

The claim that those were written by a Col in Iraq is bogus (its a fake letter that used the information from Bremer's speach)













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Re: Re: The Media Never Reported This!!

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If all is as rosy as you paint it,why is the U.S, STILL THERE?

Itend to believe the video images of burning cars and bodies being pulled out of bomb craters,of helicopter wreckage and nervous Marines waving heavy-calibre weapons,rather than a few unsubstantiated 'facts'.Here's one genuine fact that puts your argument into perspective....The mortality figure for U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq passed 500 last week.The majority of these brave young people have died since the Bush declared the 'bulk of the fighting to be over' on May 1st.

I ran a quick Google search of a couple of unique phrases in this feel-good-patriot piece of nonsense.It came back with 292 matches,cut pasted tomainly right wing flag-waving sites.I couldn't find a single bona fide news organisation among the 292 matches.Hardly surprising really.

To be honest with you I friend of mine passed this info on to me. I am not trying to paint a rosy picture but can you say that you that have said one good thing in the past concerning the Americans being in Iraq or about Bush?. I am tired of reading all of these anti-bush. anti-American, anti everything posts. Instead of always finding fault with everything that Bush or the Americans do how about just saying something good for once. Try doing that once in a while, I believe that there is soemthing good in everything that happens.

To you they may be right wing flag-waving sites but to me they may not be. My intent on this topic was to just say something different for a change. You can be the judge wrong or right it opens up the possibility that something for once can be said that is good.

In WW2 we bombed the shit out of Japan and what did the Americans do next helped rebuild Japan and now look at them I bet half the stuff in your house says "MADE IN JAPPAN"!
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I agree with the theme of your post.
The concern you point out is that, in the eyes of the media, good news is not news.
The media rarely reports when things in this world are working as they should, whether its the Supreme Court or the traffic lights down the street.
Reporting on the successes in Iraq are not news to them.
They are forced to report on the sensational and the troubling, as their system is based on ratings.
If I can suggest, watch less American commercial news.
There are many fine English language news programs which provode a more balanced view of world events. I prefer the BBC world service, as the commercial Canadian news programs are about as bad as the US ones.
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Re: Re: Re: The Media Never Reported This!!

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I am tired of reading all of these anti-bush. anti-American, anti everything posts.
And I am tired of people who can't separate anti-Bush and anti-American.One is a damn fine country,the other is an egotistical fraud who represents the very worst in mock-morality.
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Re: Re: The Media Never Reported This!!

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for example, I don't trust US vaccines hah..
Taranaki, you've spoken of being tired of the bullshit from people who are on the extreme right, meet someone who spews rhetoric from the extreme left. This is on my list of the most idiotic statements I've ever heard. Everyone on the left accuses right wingers of being conspiracy theorists, well here's an excellent example of a left wing one.
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Re: The Media Never Reported This!!

So where's the proof backing up everything in this list?
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Re: The Media Never Reported This!!

Justacruiser, have you ever lived outside your comfy little home in the US? Be quiet will you? Enough is enough, everyone's a damn conspiracy theorist if it doesn't comform to your views that side with the government and media.

I don't know how about asking soldiers who have the oh so mysterious gulf war syndrome? Of course they are dead, infertile and forgotten so who gives a shit right?

Or what about the syphilis experimentation on blacks in the past?

What about the experimental vaccine usage on vietnam vets?

So conspiracy theories.

Just the way the DU weapons are safe. I beg to tell those that say that, fuck off and burn in hell because quite frankly not only in iraq but in former-yugoslavia (kosovo and serbia and the surrounding regions) are affected by DU that was used by the americans... resulting in astronomical rise in cancer and other radiation related diseases.

If the US doesn't care for its own soldiers by testing vaccines on them, not telling them the truth (aka syndrome type/number 1, syndrome type/number 2, etc...) I will not want to nor trust such crap or related crap on myself or on others.

In regards to GM foods.. all they have done is produced larger quantities of food to make money faster, these foods taste different, smell different, or don't taste/smell at all, have had cases of viral outbreaks (most notably the many corn virus outbreaks), etc.. etc...

And I am not 'from the left' I just see lots of bullshit coming out of right-wing assholes and their media/gov subordinates... I try to not call anybody 'right wing' or 'left wing' I just call them "bullshit liars" or "truth sayers" to the best of my ability. You don't have to be in any political spectrum to know and support the truth or disprove of truth in support of a certain organization/group/etc...
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Justacruiser, have you ever lived outside your comfy little home in the US? Be quiet will you?
This coming from someone who likes to put in his own dumbassed ideas as well hmm? I could say the same for you.


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Enough is enough, everyone's a damn conspiracy theorist if it doesn't comform to your views that side with the government and media.
I don't trust the American media at all, I've said as much in other posts, not one of the media companies is unbiased in one way or the other. I also only trust my own government so far.

As for the vaccines, anyone can have bad effects from a vaccine. It stands to reason that if you mass vaccinate a huge number of people, you're going to get some who have reactions to it, whether it be from the vaccine itself or them having an allergic reaction. With your post, you're implying that America is PURPOSELY killing people using vaccinations as a tool, right? Or that they WOULD use them to kill people, right? What are we, Nazi Germany!? Are you fucking kidding me!?

If this country were really that bad, the people who share YOUR viewpoints would be the first on the list to be rounded up and 'vaccinated' because people here who share your viewpoints already question government motives constantly. Haven't seen it happen! What next? Are you going to say that the flu epidemic we're having was caused by the government? I can hear it now, "This is Dan Rather, reporting today that an edict by the Furher, Bush, decrees that all those who watch CNN and have read any books by the executed criminal Michael Moore have been ordered to report for 'vaccinations' at their local landfill by midnight tonight, I myself will be reporting within the hour."

Right dude, keep 'theorizing'.
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And I am tired of people who can't separate anti-Bush and anti-American.One is a damn fine country,the other is an egotistical fraud who represents the very worst in mock-morality.

I know the difference between anti Bush and anti American and I have seen more anti bush but I have also seen anti American.

Now I am going to do to you the same thing other members have done to me! Show me your proof that Bush is an egotistical fraud!

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Thank you that was the intent of my post!

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So where's the proof backing up everything in this list?
Toskin where's the proof its made up?
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Re: The Media Never Reported This!!

Where's the proof that what was said actually was? There's your proof.. how frickin more simple do you want it. THINK.

The IMMINENT threat, wmd, chemical biological mobile bio labs, 'death vans', yadayadayada (insert uncontrolled hysterical laugh).

Ah the memories

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/me...j.irq.no.labs/

The beauty of all this, is that liars get caught in their act. The beauty of all that is that you can make them eat their own words.

It's AMAZING how today on counter spin, a republican (formerly in reagen administration), defended colin powel and bush stating they NEVER said that iraq and saddam were an IMMINIENT threat (LOL HAHAHHA) but instead stated THEY COULD HAVE BEEN (gahahaha)
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Where's the proof that what was said actually was? There's your proof.. how frickin more simple do you want it. THINK.

The IMMINENT threat, wmd, chemical biological mobile bio labs, 'death vans', yadayadayada (insert uncontrolled hysterical laugh).

Ah the memories

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/me...j.irq.no.labs/

The beauty of all this, is that liars get caught in their act. The beauty of all that is that you can make them eat their own words.

It's AMAZING how today on counter spin, a republican (formerly in reagen administration), defended colin powel and bush stating they NEVER said that iraq and saddam were an IMMINIENT threat (LOL HAHAHHA) but instead stated THEY COULD HAVE BEEN (gahahaha)
You forgot the best one of all, that seems to have been quietly swept under the rug
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"A group he calls his Nuclear Muhahideen"
It's especially humourous because he can't pronounce Nuclear. Noo-klya-yer Mujahideen!

I don't see how anyone could trust the Bush administration anymore. There is no way these are intelligence failures, they are lies. Bush claimed Saddam had WMD's, and thus was violating the UN resolutions, therefore he would invade in the name of the UN. The UN woudn't get on board, but out of respect for the US, they sent in the inspectors. When it became clear the inspectors were not finding anything, Bush started coming up with ridiculous claims, such as the Nuclear Mujahideen, mobile biological weapons factories, claiming that Iraq's surface to surface missiles had a range 100kms further than they were allowed to. This was based on an unladen weight, of course, and was laughed out of the UN. Along with all of Bush's other groundless claims. Like the unmanned aerial vehicles, which supposed were to be used to launch chemical and biological attacks. They haven't turned on of those up yet, have they? That's about the time the right wing camp started claiming the UN is useless, of course. The UN is all very well and nice when the US thinks they can be used as a pretext for war, or in enforcing the "no fly zones" in the name of the UN, despite there never being any UN authorization for them. The second the UN shows some backbone and tells Bush they need more proof before they can start a war which will cost the lives of thousands, they become a useless "big government" organization, that is profoundly anti-American.

Then of course, the argument shifts to "he's an eeevil maaan".

All the time, we were all told how grave the threat was to the US. Nuclear and biological weapons were being prepared for an attack on the US, they were collaborating with Bin Laden, etc...
The worst part is how ferverently the right wing camp clung to these statements, and tried to justify them. Now the war is over, it's clear it was all bullshit, and what do you say? It's not important, he was a bad man! It doesn't matter if there were no WMD's, he was threatening America! It's all bullshit, Bush lied. So did Blair. It became clear from day one they were going to invade, and all of this was just a show to justify it.
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Re: The Media Never Reported This!!

You know what's also funny The other day I saw a snip of his latest speech. He mentions how America upheld the beliefs and what the UN stands for. LOL.. I didn't laugh but I just wanted to point out for the millionthieme time what stinking hypocrites. Otherwise in a sense he was sarcastically right.. yeah the UN is nothing but a use it how and when you need it or don't Double standards duh. Also he did say nookular I was like.. wtf? This was the first time I noticed it for myself (even though I've seen so many of his speeches).
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