The Fast and Irritating

[s14silvias14]

I just want to see what people out there take to the whole 'street racing' thing. All these fast and furious kids out there tend to ruin things for everyone. And if your smart, you know what i mean when i say fast and furious...so dont jump to conclusions...I became interested in cars not too long ago. Outside my senior year in high school...at that time I didnt know a civic from an NSX...But now things are different...Back in the day, people would race their muscle cars or hotrods...now we have kids who want to take their Hyundai Accents and Honda's and do all these modifications to them, ultimately wasting time and money to wreck them later on down the road because they think they are 'street racers'. I honestly think there are very few people who understand the whole racing concept and the ones who are out there street racing dont know anything more than what a movie can tell them....

.....oh, and im not a street racer, nor have I ever wanted to be one. I just like cars, rare ones as a matter of fact....

...and if this makes you feel angry or whatever, thats why I put it up...so respond...later

[Mr7]

Dude if you think street racing and the import scene merged with that movie your just as retarted as the movie it self.

[Mr7]

Ok...now to be a bit more civil. There are many resons why people street race somtimes they just dont have tracks near them, some people get a rush from the thought of getting caught, and for some street racing is just....easy as in doesnt take much to do. It's like cheating some people are tempted when some chick is willing...and it's all easy to do...anyway...I guess you get the point there. I'm not a street racer in the since that I do it all the time...have I done it..yeah...is it safe no...

"they think they are 'street racers'. I honestly think there are very few people who understand the whole racing concept and the ones who are out there street racing dont know anything more than what a movie can tell them...."

If they race on the street they are indeed street racers and I'm pretty sure they get the concept ...make your car fast...drive good....and beat the other guy. Now maby your confusing ricers and racers, ricers have no idea what the fuck there doing calling there 19' rims a preformance part and shit like that. Maby your just confused.

[s14silvias14]

No, i know what im saying. Ricers, racers...your almost getting it...that what im tryin to say...who cares about what word you use to associate these kids with...but im not quite so sure you know what im talking about...It really doesnt relate to where they do it...its all the crap they bring with them...they do things that are just pointless...they waste their time doing things to their cars when they should just wait until they actually have a decent car that will work...It could be different depending on the area you live in...Im in Northeast Ohio and im surrounded by these KIDS...and i emphasize the word kids...who have piles of junk...making it an eyesore to drive...ive even seen a kid with a Daewoo with a wing on it that you would find on a Le Mans car...and yeah you could say ricer...whatev...im trying to explain this as simple as possible so you can understand...Everyone races/speeds on the roads...its human nature to be competetive at times and to seek a rush...and if they live in an area that doesnt have a track or drag strip near them...then they must live in an area where theres not many people...or they just dont know that theres a place near them...but getting back on track...it doesnt matter where they do it..its just the fact that they do it because they think its cool to take a POS and put a sticker on it, then proceed to act like the actors in a movie and try to do what they do...i.e. Fast and Furious...if you dont understand...ill try to explain it again...i have infinite patience with this...

[Mr7]

You dont understand the true essance of tunning a car. Way back in the day hotroding/street roding whatever in it's truest essance is taking what you have and trying to make it faster, stronger, better. What you take is just a matter of personal preferance...thou sure somtimes someone just shouldnt try on ...some cars, I notice your getting back to talking about ricers twoards the end there...it seems you seriouly confuse the street racing thing with the ricer thing...hrmm visit here and maby you'd be enlighted a bit www.Jaxstreetscene.com look around a bit, theres street racing for you..somewhat organized.

[s14silvias14]

all the cars that were tuned back then were muscle cars. camaros, mustangs (v8's), firebirds, Goats, Chevelles, Hemi's...ya see the pattern? back then was different...i know the whole ricer terminology and im not confused...i think maybe u have to understand that ricers want to be street racers and try to be...i think u can agree with me on that...and if you do, thats what i was tryin to tell you...and i think u got it when u said some people just shouldnt try with some cars...

[Mr7]

Ha ha no man people tried to hook up anything back then man it wasnt all mustangs, and camaros, and firebirds if they had it and they liked cars they tuned that bitch. Ricers are street racers if they race...there retarted street racers yes..but they race on the street never the less. They may not be what normal peopel classify as street racers hense the term ricers came into play but anyone who races on the street can call them self a street racer...now actually being in the real shit...well thats different.

[J_Spec_NiTeMaRe]

Street racers are ricers, eh? From the way you two talk about it, it sounds like neither of you participate in this. Well I do. And I drive a Corvette, and I am still a "ricer?"

If you don't like the way someones car looks, then it doesn't affect them. They don't care. Just because it looks "ricey" to you doesn't mean they should change it, it just means that the people who posess true style and form look that much better.


In Northern Ohio, the street racing scene may be composed of 16 year olds with Daewoos, but that is not the way it goes everywhere, I assure you. Here in Southern California, people are very serious indeed. And most of them are over the age of 21. Sure, you will catch the occasional young kid, but of course that's the way it is. Most people at the races that I attend have something called "mutual respect." If you do huge burnouts in the middle of the strip, people get pissed. If you drive like a moron, people get pissed. If you endanger others (more in a careless fashion), people get pissed. We race on closed streets, people are at the finish lines looking for bystanders and cops, and it's extremely organized and honest.


And let me tell you, just because a car is slow stock does not mean that it is pointless to modify. If you think that's the truth, you're in the wrong forum. I am at about 500 horses to the wheels, and I lost 500$ to a Civic hatchback. A Civic. Sure it had as much money into the turbo system as my car is worth, but the point is, it won. He got 200$ out of me too. We raced again for 300 and he mis shifted, he would have won again. Pointless? Unitl you're in my or his situation, I doubt you will see how much of a point there is in modifying a slow car. And this is exactly why I have respect for imports, muscle cars, whatever. If in the right hands, the car can absolutley dominate anything, it doesn't matter what your preference is. A true car enthusiast can appreciate both worlds.


And yeah, back in the day, most street races were old muscle. Modifying imports didn't really get big until the early 90s.

[1viadrft]

Street racing in the US has been around since the late 1940's, gentlemen. Over the years the cars have evolved from Rat-Rods to Hot-Rods and Muscle Cars to Sports Cars. What we have now are the "IMPORT-RACERS". I think this is a thin line between STYLE and PERFORMENCE. If we look back to our STREET RACING FOREFATHERS it was always about permormence first. Kids nowadays are all about 200lbs. worth of speakers and neon flashing lights and 20 in. wheels. NOT REAL STREET RACERS (they are RICERS!)! They may attempt to 'race'... but just cus you mix eggs and flour in shit... doesn't mean it's a CAKE! Don't get me wrong... there are some legitimate "road-racers" out there... but the majority are all caught-up in this multi-million dollar FAD. The Industry is blowing this out of porportion and messing it up for the real racers out there. EXAMPLE: I went to look at the new LAN-EVO 8's and all the sales guy was telling me was, "Yeah, this is the one car in the Fast and the Furious".... didn't even mention the cars specs! The majority of these kids have NO idea about performence!
---1viadrft

[ozzy619]

Actually silvia your wrong Hemi's goats and what not were factory compititions. Granted kids bought em and built them but you need to go a little farther back to see hot rods. You see back in the day The old man bought a dodge Charger and you being the greatful little bugger got his old 30 or 50's ford or chevy with a flathead 6cyl. Since Kids go with whats givin to them they naturally started to modify and build what ever they had. Look at old hot rod photos that are from the time You'll see kids with model T's. A's and cars that didn't even have a flat head V8. But they were cheap and you could get a old chevy V8 for cheap so why not upgrade. Not lets come up in the years and look at the 90's. Mom or dad got a new Ford Mustang. Being the greatful little bugger you were glad to get a free Honda Civic. Of course it's small slow and has no balls BUT it was free just like the Rambler your old man first got when your grand daddy bought a 64 Mustang. Read Hot rod Magazine some time they'll even tell you the Vtec is the 350 chevy of the new century. Now don't think I like Honda's cause I hate em. To small of engine and to much work to get decent proformance in my opinon. But You have to give some credit were credit is due.

I'll get off the soap box now

[Suislide]

what the hell does this have to do with 240SX's?

moved to street racing forum.

[carrrnuttt]

Thanks Bryan...

[Soyo]

ok you freaking stupid moron, just cuz a car has a V8 doesn't mean its better, and just cuz a car is a muscle car doesn't mean it was meant to race, and just cuz a car is an import doesn't mean its a ricer car or they aren't tunable. I know a TON of people with musclecar or used to have muscle cars that street race or street raced back in highschool and college. Street racing in itself is not safe no, but there is not always a track to race at as another option, and street racing in itself is also not just some gay trend that started from the fast and the furious, yes some faggets copy off the movie cuz they don't know anything or are unoriginal but that doesn't define street racing.

and yes racing and ricers are different, your talking about ricers not racers. Ricers are the faggs that put on huge wings and big graphics and window stickers and a new muffler on a stock exhaust and throw on some neon lights, then think they are the coolest ever, well thats a ricer, maybe you should learn these things before you rant off totally wrong info.

and there are plenty of real racers with import cars... I mean if only muscle cars were fast and import cars weren't able to be real race cars, then how does an 86 Mazda rx-7 with a rotory engine hold the land speed record for its class at 286mph? and I would love to see one of those old muscle cars that weigh like 4,000lbs go out onto a road corse against an rx-7, or almost any light-weight RWD import, I believe the import would hand that muscle cars its 'rear bumper'

you can make any car fast, give me $100,000 and I'll make a pinto fast, I'll make a 4-door honda accord fast, you pick a freakin car and I'll make it fast with the right amount of money.

you just need to shot yourself in the face or else not be such a fagget

[raven_240]

all i got to say is I'm not much into the "rice" look myslef although i enjoy looking at it I just couldnt drive something like that every day. I wouldn't mined seeing a "riced' out daewoo with some off the wall outragouse body kit flashing lights all over and all the stickers you can handle, and I wouldnt mined seeing like a freakin ford festiva with f'ed up paint, rust, and a broken tail light. If they are both fast both deserve props. Truth is ANYTHING can be fast as long as you have the money. If your fast or even working on it i aploud you. I dont even mined show cars, slow as crap but prity as long as they dont rev to me at a light, i respect these people to. Different strokes for different folks i say I apploud you all.

HOWEVER! If your mom gives you a civic and all you do is put stickers all over it and a big wing and you think it looks good so be it, I just hate it when they think they are fast and talk crap. Face it we are talking about an attatude here. Everyone is dumb that is human nature. Some are just anoyingly dumb. All we can do is just turn the other cheek and when you see one of these people give'em an extra car lenth or two of distace, so they dont take you out with em, and dont incurage them by racing em. But dont forget we all had slow cars and wanted to race two at one point, if you wanna race you better start practacing with some thing you can handle right? To me the most dangerouse person is the one with all the power and no know how on how to drive it, thats what scares me.

Hey if you wanna even help these poor 'lost' souls out give em a few tips and make us all safer. I know i could always use some.

[IAmCman]

Originally Posted by J_Spec_NiTeMaRe

Street racers are ricers, eh? From the way you two talk about it, it sounds like neither of you participate in this. Well I do. And I drive a Corvette, and I am still a "ricer?"

You don't seem to get it, J_Spec, he said this:

Originally Posted by Mr7

Ricers are street racers if they race...

There *IS* a difference between
"Ricers are street racers if they race"
and
"Street Racers are ricers if they race."

And s14silvias14 was talking about these "Fast & the Furious" wanna-be racers that are seen everywhere nowadays...notice he put "Street Racers" in quotes...hinting at the fact that these are not real street racers.

So to answer your question...Are you a ricer? No.

Are you unskilled at recognizing the patterns of speech and sentence construction in the English language? Yes.

Case closed.


Oh, and you other guys shouldn't hate on ricers. Instead, feel sorry for them, these guys make do with what they are given, no matter how shitty it is. They cannot afford and probably never will be able to afford quality cars, or for that matter, quality parts. If they take joy in what they do, more power to them...they need all the (horse)power they can get with the cars they get stuck with. If you don't like what they drive, then don't get a car like they have. Simple as that. If they're happy, leave them be...(Of course, it's ok to race one once in a while to make yourself feel good )