RB vs. SR for drifting

[LaYzIeNoY]

OK here is the question i'm a heavy drifter i use this car for drifting mainly and the occasional quarter mile. My question was which engie should i use in the swap the RB series or should i use one from the SR series for the swap. According to some people that i have asked on some other forums the RB series affects the handling and weight distribution of the car. I already know that the weight will be affected but does it really change how it will handle. will understeering, oversteering, or any of the basics of drifting be affected drastically.

[klohiq]

Both can and have been used in a s chasis for drifting. Depends on your style since I believe both keep the weight distribution (relatively) 50/50. If you want lots of reliable power then the RB is better. If your power demands aren't crazy then an SR will be great and should be a very reliable engine.

If you want a 400hp and below car...which is more than enough for street if the power is in the right rev ranges then an SR will cost half as much and still be very reliable if you keep up on maintaining it.

[ALLiNEEDis90HP]

you don't really need a RB, you don't need that much power although i did see a red 240sx with a RB in it at DD11, and damn that thing was fast

[Twyzz]

Originally Posted by ALLiNEEDis90HP

you don't really need a RB, you don't need that much power although i did see a red 240sx with a RB in it at DD11, and damn that thing was fast

the sr is better for drifting I think, it has a lower powerband than most of the rb engines in the series.

[musicsurfman]

Yay! Another Thread For Stupid People To Chime In With Ignorant Responses!

Ok, The Weight Balance Remains Close To 50/50 With Any Of The Rbs; Rb20 Has Better Distribution Though. With The Rb25 I Think Its 54/46 (there Is A Thread On Nico).

The Rb Can Be Made To Have 400+ Hp For Less Than Or Equal To The Amount Of The Sr. The Rb20 Install Is Cheaper Than An Sr And Is Actually Easier.
There Are Four People That I Know Who Say It Is Easy To Drift A Rb Powered 240, On Owns A Rb And Sr And Says He Likes The Rev Happy Rb Over The Sr (this Is Only Personal Opinion).

[musicsurfman]

http://www.nissaninfiniticlub.net/fo...threadid=45754
HERE IS THAT THREAD I MENTIONED.

[infi]

take ca18det ^^

[musicsurfman]

Any Engine That Can Be Swapped Into A 240 Can Be Drifted. There Is No If, Ands, Or Buts About It!

[nissan240sxdude]

Well it mainly matters on how much hp you want and how much you are willing to spend. All the SR and RB series have 50/50 weight balance once you swap it into your 240sx. So here is a lists on different swaps.

SR20DE-T (S13)

Engine Cost: $2,500-3,500
Install Cost:$1,000-2,000
Stock Horse power: 203 @ 6000 rpm
Stock Torque: 202lb/ft @ 4000 rpm
Redline: 7,500 rpm
Turbo: T-25
Stock Boost: 7 psi
0-60 mph: 6.18 seconds
1/4 mile: 14.30 seconds
Modified Horsepower: 350-450hp

SR20DE-T (S14)

Engine Cost: $4,000-5,000
Install Cost:$1,000-2,000
Stock Horse power: 217 @ 6000 rpm
Stock Torque: 202lb/ft @ 4800 rpm
Redline: 7,500 rpm
Turbo: T28 ball bearing turbo
Stock Boost: 7 psi
0-60 mph: 6.30 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.55 seconds
Modified Horsepower: 350-500hp

SR20DE-T (S15)

Engine Cost: $5,000-6,000
Install Cost:$1,000-2,000
Stock Horse power: 247 @ 6400 rpm
Stock Torque: 202lb/ft @ 4800 rpm
Redline: 7,500 rpm
Turbo: T28 ball bearing turbo
Stock Boost: 9 psi
0-60 mph: 5.60 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.90 seconds
Modified Horsepower: 350-500hp

RB20DE-T

Engine Cost: $2,500-3,000
Install Cost:$2,000-2,500
Stock Horse power: 207 @ 5600 rpm
Stock Torque: 180lb/ft @ 4000 rpm
Redline: 8,000 rpm
Turbo: N/A
Stock Boost: N/A
0-60 mph: N/A
1/4 mile: N/A
Modified Horsepower: 400-500hp

RB25DE-T

Engine Cost: $5,000-6,500
Install Cost:$2,500-3,000
Stock Horse power: 247 @ 6000 rpm
Stock Torque: 217lb/ft @ 4800 rpm
Redline: 8,000 rpm
Turbo: N/A
Stock Boost: N/A
0-60 mph: N/A
1/4 mile: N/A
Modified Horsepower: 400-450hp

RB26DE-TT

Engine Cost: $7000-8,000
Install Cost:$3,000 (AWD and TT setup will be in excess of $15,000)
Stock Horse power: 316 @ 6800 rpm
Stock Torque: 289lb/ft @ 4400 rpm
Redline: 8,000 rpm
Turbo: N/A
Stock Boost: N/A
0-60 mph: N/A
1/4 mile: N/A
Modified Horsepower: 500-600hp

That was a lot of typing, but I just got this text from:

http://klohiq.tripod.com/cars/240sx/swap.html

I just shorten it to make it more brief but if you want to check more information on these swaps visit the site.

-nissan240sxdude

[nacho_nissan]

since when does the RB26 have 316 hp??

[nissan240sxdude]

Well if you don't believe me then check the site I gave you guys a link. Besides the engine is from a Nissan Skyline R34 GTR if you look at the site. Also remeber that the R34 GTR's hp is not 280 like Nissan claims it to be because the wanted lower insurance and other things. So I am sure that it is 316 hp but you never know it may be wrong.

-nissan240sxdude

[turbo2nr]

if you are paying 5g' for a s14 sr20det you are getting riped off.. i say go with the s13 sr20det less head ack.. easier to do you need alot of custom fabrication with the rb swap.. and to drift you dont need 400-600hp anywhere from 300+ is good enough.. you should worrie about the suspension mods and loosin weight for drifting also.
good luck
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[klohiq]

Originally Posted by nacho_nissan

since when does the RB26 have 316 hp??

many japanese sites say 320ps...which is equal to 316hp...they are nearly the same number anyway...american sites say 320hp or 315 and then there is Nissan of Japan which states 280 (276) to be exact...it's splitting hairs anyways since even though it's a 40hp difference the motor is made to handle more power in all ways...and it increases power easily up to 350-400 with some simple mods...

nissan240sxdude, thanks for refering to my site. Some of the info may be a bit off (or missing altogether), but most info that are specs (not speculation like the modified hp rating, which is a lot more variable then I list it on my site...depending on how you make the horsepower an engine may only be able to handle maybe double what the factory rating is...while a more experience tuner doing more than just increasing turbo size may be able to make 3 times the stock hp and still have it fairly reliable and useable). The site is mostly correct though...prices also vary greatly...an engine purchased on ebay may be much cheaper than an engine purchased from a larger importer...with used items there are always huge factors that change the price the item can be purchase at...just like used cars...sometimes you get a deal where a great car is at a below average price...and sometimes you find an average car with a very above average price...the site is merely meant to give an idea for cost comparitives.


musicsurfman The RB engine I was refering to was an RB25 for cost comparison. And an RB25 is an expensive engine and easily makes lots of hp. I don't particularly like the RB20...same displacement at an SR so I can't really see the point...yes it's an i6, but for a bit more why not go for the 25 with neo-vvl and more power?...RB26 and 25 are great engines though...And I think you can still take a redtop sr and make just as much if not more power for less money...then again it all depends on how you spend your money and what deals you can find. And how many RB and SR powered 240s have you drifted? Since we are so ignorant maybe you can share your great wealth of knowledge with a comparison of how each affects your drifting style. I'm not acting like I know everything...but I wouldn't consider myself or my post stupid or ignorant...

It will most likely be cheaper for the sr if you just plan to use slightly more than stock hp for drifting...while the rb series offers greater power possibilities...and it was already stated that both give a near 50/50 weight distribution...let alone that each person's car is different in weight distribution depending on how much they weigh, how much gas is in their tank and what parts of their car they have removed/lightened. So an exact number is not the correct number exact for that specific car at that specific time...

[nissan240sxdude]

So in short I would go with the SR20DE-T (S13 engine) because you get the most bang for your buck, installation is cheap, and you really don't need any more than 400 hp to drift any way; even though the range is 350-450 hp. Besides that the engine I am swapping into my 240sx. But it all matters on the person and how much money they have to blow. I am just suggesting the most practical of the bunch.

Anyway you are welcome klohiq...I think that is how you spell...for spreading the site around. Well tell next time see ya.

-nissan240sxdude

[drifter17]

Originally Posted by nissan240sxdude

installation is cheap, -nissan240sxdude

you dont even need to pay for installation....its very straightfoward and easy....if you have questions or need a walk-through just check out heavy-throttle.com....they really do help