rb 35?? wah the .........

boostin_calais · #1 04-13-2001, 09:44 PM

incase you don't know the legal maxium power a car engine can have in japan is 280 ps which for you who don't know is approx. 0.74 kw. K so how do you expect nissan to bring out a v8 twin turbo when nissan only uses v8 engines on their big ass luxury heaps that can't even get close to the 11 sec quarter without spend a shit load!! Nissan exports most of their v8's to america. A little bit of info.......
The fastest street LEGAL car in the world is from japan running a rb26dett. so why would they need a new engine?? The skyline gtr already beats a prosche and a lamborgini in a straight line (if the speedo cut out is removed). Over here in australia the skyine gt-r was ban from touring car racing cause "it had an unfair advantage". If you look at the facts, it is highly and I mean very highly unlikly nissan will release a v8 twin turbo. Sixes and fours in japan go a shit load faster than most cars. Why get cubes when you just change the engine add-ons?? This going to get a bigger outcome with faster accerlation. The main difference between the r34 and r33/r32 engine is that the r34 has better mid range torque, nissan is really in a corner now all they can really do is fine tune rb26dett or what ever engine they plan to use, unless the laws in japan change. So a v8 would be too expense for nissan to make, when their six is almost already at the legal limit. You can get twin turbo six to go faster than a v8 twin turbo with a hell of a lot less cost. If you don't believe me look at the power to weight ratio it tells the whole story.

adamandsonja · #2 04-14-2001, 08:43 AM

nissan have confirmed that the v8 will not be used.:alien:

igor@af · #3 04-14-2001, 10:12 PM

the only reason i can see that Nissan would want to go with v8 is cause they're DUMB, they have a made a crap load of mistakes before, but I just really hope they don't mess up the ultimate - Skyline GT-R.
Honda plans to break the gentleman agreement in Japan with the next gen. NSX which will have around 400hp.
read more here:
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...hp?threadid=87

If they do, then it will most likely cause a chain reaction and all the Japanese manufacturers will just spit on the agreement and move on with the rest of the world.
Then there *might* be a place for v8 3.5 liter TT.

What I REALLY don't understand is why would Nissan want to stick a V-6, i repeat V-6 in the R35. What's so wrong with the RB26DETT ? [which is flat-6 for those that didn't know]
I really don't see them using any brain switching from flat-6 to v-6..... whats the point?
RB26DETT in my opinion is one of the greatest engines ever... they should just put in RB30DETT in the R35 or something, if they want more power and better reliability due to lower psi.

boostin_calais · #4 04-15-2001, 02:05 AM

here in australia holden commodores have a rb30et, yes a single cam rb30, and as the parts are interchangable people here seem to have a craze with fitting rb25det heads and rb26dett heads. making a rb30dett, I am still confused at the moment whether to sell my commodore with a rb26dett and start again. It would be more of a challenge to build one of these engines instead of engine conversion. below is a photo of a rb30et with a rb25det and twin t28 turbo chargers.

R33 · #5 04-16-2001, 11:02 PM

I don't know about you guys but if the 35 is as good as the 32/33/34 and if it presents the same possibility of modding, I wouldn't care what engine they use. If I have the money (that is a BIG "if") I would buy the 35 anyway. :flamer:

adamandsonja · #6 04-17-2001, 08:11 AM

igor, just to correct you, the six cyl gtr engine is a long or inline six not a flat six. A flat engine is also known as a boxer engine. eg subaru wrx/porsche.
r33 i love that flame thrower dude!
adam:rocket:

R33 · #7 04-17-2001, 10:39 PM

Adam, enlighten me a bit here. An in line is like the one we have in the gtr. It's a straight six where the pistons fire up. Now, what's a flat/boxer? Does a flat/boxer put the pistons horizontally instead of vertically?

adamandsonja · #8 04-18-2001, 07:47 AM

r33 yep! like 2 people standing, throwing punches at each other.
adam

b-b00gie · #9 04-18-2001, 08:34 AM

i think the new body style is awesome

200sx · #10 04-25-2001, 09:00 AM

talking about NSX's ,wich one you think it's better the NSX or the GTR (i hate anything honda so my opinion it's one sided)

R33 · #11 04-26-2001, 03:55 AM

I love the NSX cockpit - really cool - make you feel as if you are in a fighter jet:smoker2: Ant the engine is where it should be in a Sports car - the rear. The alluminium body is light but that makes it expensive to replace if the need arises. (the door alone is about usd 2600 per piece

). Parts are also expensive. Handles quite well. Put in a turbine or two, the thing would fly and could possible eat the Viper your In tegra friend was talking about. But......what the hell, I think the GTR is much better and more rugged:finger:

Racer 20 · #12 04-27-2001, 02:58 AM

The NSX rocks. It's an awesome car. Pure sports car.

Very NICE car. But I also like the Skyline (GTR) better.

And as for all of you guys bitching about a V8. I don't get the big deal. There are PLENTY of sports/gt/exotics with V8s. The new NSX has an 8. Why can't the Skyline GTR have an 8? It's has always been Japans most muscular car. So why not increase the engine size? I still want 4WD and I think many other GTR fans also want that. So I guess it was either V8/RWD or a lighter engine with 4WD. So I guess the 4WD won. My dream GTR would have a V8 ("front-mid mounted", like the Honda S2000

), twin-turbos, 4WD, and...ummm... the GTR name.

But I guess until they...kill...the Skyline it will be a 6 like always.

But the Supra (or whatever Toyota's new car is) and NSX are gonna be V8s, am I right? The Corvette ZO6 is an 8. The Lotus Esprit is an 8. The Ferrari F355 and 360 have 8s. So I guess V8s ARE (!!!!) gr8 engines.

But until Japan gets rid of their @*$&@*$^*@ agreement of "276" bhp we will have to mod our Japanese cars like pshycos. lol

BTW, Igor (I think it was) has a good idea with that "RB30DETT" lol. But I would make it "RB61DETT". :smoka: Lol I it will be from BMW. It will be a 12. lol AND it will be in the McLaren F1!!!

R33 · #13 04-27-2001, 04:03 AM

I don't know Racer, but I think the GTR should maintain its uniqueness by employing the in line 6 rather than jumping onto the V8 bandwagon without any real benefit to gain other than making it very costly!

What a V8 does, I believe the GTR in line 6 can do- even can do better.:eshooter: If Nissan thinks that the GTR is gonna lag behind the V8s 10 litre American cars et al they could always come up with a 3 or 3.5 litre in line 6 TT:badass: and carbon fibre body like the Elise!!:licker: That would smoke the competitors to smithereen. What's the point of a V8? It's gonna be heavy and it'd guzzle fuel like there's no tomorrow. The car has to be bigger (GTR IS already big by sports standard). The only benefit I suppose would be the very nice and inimitable V8 growl. So, stick with in line 6, TT and raise it to 3.5:sun: That's my two cent's worth.

igor@af · #14 04-27-2001, 08:00 AM

Racer, all the cars you have mentioned that have v8 are great, but guess what?

GT-R is better than any of those patially because of its great engine. I'd like it to be RB series forever for the GT-R.

BTW, did I mention that a V-6 in a GT-R would suck?:smoka:

200sx · #15 04-27-2001, 09:39 AM

i think that the whole point for the japanese making the GT-R's engine a V anything is to try to appeal to the american market, remember this is the first one with plans of imports to the US. I wonder if they know that the car is already praised like god in this side of the world.

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