Koni Yellows and Ground Contol Adustable Coilovers

[Darkwing]

I found I can get a set of both of these for about $800 total. It's off of modacar.com and was wondering if that was a reputable website to get them off from. I have a 95 civic coupe and wanted to have the ability to keep my car at stock height for normal driving but also to be able to lower it when I was just crusing around or for a show. This looked like a good setup for not a lot of money. Any opinions on this setup or the website would be apriciated.

Thanks, DW

[BullShifter]

That is a good set-up according to people of AF, I personally don't like sleeves. Remember each time you adjust the ride height an alignment is needed! Depending how much you plan on lowering, a camber kit is highly recommended or suggested for minimal drops(2" or less)

[Ace$nyper]

true true but i dont mind sleaves at all its a good deal mobb it. I use teh koni yellows my self and am super happy with them

[SilverY2KCivic]

Koni Yellows wrapped in Ground Controls =

Modacar is a very reputable vendor as well. I've purchased from them once and didn't have a single problem. Delivery and shipping was prompt, and that was about it with them. Again another

Here's what I know on Ground Controls, but maybe contact them to be extra sure. They come standard with mildly progressive springs. Good thing I guess, don't know much about progressive vs. non-progressive or the effects of each. Also standard the spring rates of G/C's respectively is 380lbs/ft front and 280lbs/ft rear. Pretty average spring rates for coilover sleeves. Depending on your driving style will depend on how stiff you want them to be. I say this because G/C coils you can actually custom order specific spring rates with them. If you are going to just be daily driver, maybe a little drag track time here and there, I'd stick with the standard. If you plan on doing any driving that will require increased handling abilities, then I'd personally go with maybe 400 front or 450 front, and 350 rear eitherway you do the fronts. Also, if you want to retain a closer to stock feel ride quality, STICK WITH the standard rates with the springs. probably a little more info than you wanted/needed, but always good to know.

[Darkwing]

Thank you for the extra info, SilverY2KCivic. I am always looking to learn, and therefore willing to ask. I am glad that the setup I selected jives with the good feelings of the board. It would be one of the few things lol. I also have a question or two on the camber kits. I will not be dropping my car more than 2". It would simply be impractacle.(sp?) Anyways, would I need one for that kind of drop? I have heard yes and no, and that it depends on how much I would be driving on it dropped. That's the tricky thing, and brings me to my next question. Where I live, it would be too hard to get around with it lowered, so I would not be daily driving it with it down. So the question is: with this setup, how long and how hard would it take/to be to go from stock height to dropped, and vise-versa? I heard you need to get an alignment every time you change ride height, how much is that and how long would that take?

This all seems very web-like in its complexity. Weaving the coils with the shocks and those to the camber kits and the alignments etc.... I really need to be able to go back to stock height, so if it turns out to be a nightmare just to have it dropped for a weekend, maybe I should be looking elsewhere to drop my cash eh?

Also I have heard that "sleeves" are not the best option in adjustable springs, but I have yet to hear anything short of very expensive damping spring/shock combos that are better. Fill-in requested.

Thank you all for your comments/suggestions. I do take them seriously, as I respect this site and its members very much. I have learned so much already, and can't wait to get more money so I can learn more

[SilverY2KCivic]

An alignment will do more good than a camber kit. Why? Camber won't wear out your tires nearly as quick as out of whack toe. I'm at "2 drop and I don't really even need a camber kit. For one my wheels don't even look very cambered, and also when I got my last alignment, I hadf them just check the camber measuerment and they said it was within spec, which means it was no more than -1 degree off from what it should be.

If you aren't going below "2, then you won't really need a camber kit. You can self adjust your rear camber by adding new bolts and some washers to the rear upper arms, I did that with mine and it's near perfect with what stock should be. My front is -1 degree off.

As for adjusting time. G/C coilovers are supposed to be easier to adjust than normal coilovers. My Tein full coilovers adjust using 2 of the same type of spanner ajustment wrenches as any sleeve type system. But I have mine down to a science from adjusting them before. I can do them in about a half hour if you count jackup/down time and the time it takes to remove and put back on the wheels. Also since my perches are adjusted almost near the bottom of the threading on my rears, I can adjust them BY HAND once I unlock the upper and lower perch from eachother. Same with my fronts, though since those springs are shorter, I have them adjusted to about 2/3's of the way up the shock threading. It shouldn't take you very long to adjust them though once you've done it a few times. And yes, a alignment is VERY HIGHLY recommended after ANY adjustment you do to your suspension.