swap time

[outofstep]

ok ive been working on getting my swap for quite some time now, and i just cant decide what to get.

i want it to be fast, yet reliable, and for a good price too.

i have though of all b16 built up $5000
d15b2 with turbo $3000
b18 built up
ZC

and i just cant decide, so im looking for feedback for anyone that has had some experience with any of these swaps. i plan to have the swap done by this summer. im looking to be the fastest, id like to smoke mustangs, elcipse, neons, v6 v8 what ever i have a 90 civic HB what you guys think?

[Dumped91Hatch]

If you have $5,000 to spend on a B16 then do that and put a turbo on that bitch. That will kill most stock V8's and rule most of the streets for a 4 banger.

[optimuscivic]

Originally Posted by Dumped91Hatch

If you have $5,000 to spend on a B16 then do that and put a turbo on that bitch. That will kill most stock V8's and rule most of the streets for a 4 banger.

i would go with the gsr turbo with that kind of money. 1.8 is better than 1.6.

[911S_TARGA_RSR]

TAKE THE GSR! Then turbo that.

[91CRXHF]

ya like 6-8psi on a GSR will be kicking some A$$ since it is already highish compression you will see much larger gains at a low PSI than you would with a LS

[DragonSeoul187]

I have a 90 civic DX and I am thinking about dropping an Integra engine in it, but I don't know what year Integra I need. I think I need a 92 or 93 but not sure.

[Hybrid1990crx]

I heard the gsr doesn't really fit in 4th gens as well as a b16? I heard that since the block is taller you have to hang it lower on the mounts and that causes your manifold and exhaust to hang lower than the rest of your car?

Just asking...

[91CRXHF]

actually hasport makes a mount that makes the block sit up higher so you would have to get a hood that bends up a little to get the clearance but the torque you would gain and hp woul dbe worth it

[SiZ]

Since the B16A is cheaper than the GSR to buy by at least $1000, I'm gonna have to put a vote in for my favorite cheap motor.

With the extra money you save from buying a GSR, you can put pistons and stronger rods in the B16 and in turn run higher boost.

[outofstep]

well ive asked alot of people, and i have around 3500 to spend only...
so i basically want to be the best for the buck

i could put pistons, rods, bearing and a cam in a dseries go with the si tranny for longer gears and a pg7 ecu which i will be able to edit and add turbo for that price... should be 12-13 sec car.

or i can just use all the money and just go b16a stock. which is fast and has alot of potential in the long run if i put more cash into.

these are the choices i have decided... down to these 2. for the dollar the turbo swap should be just a lil faster, but it would be limited to where its at unless i spray...

i think im gonna start with the turbo set up which is faster for the buck then drive that for a while, and save more money for a gsr turbo set up.

whats your opinion with that? smart thing to do ?

[SiZ]

Its your choice really.. One persons smart idea is another's dumb idea. I guess it depends on your situation.

See, I NEED reliability so the B16 was my way to go. Quick, reliable, and a great platform for later on down the road when I have two cars so I don't need the Honda.

[outofstep]

we actually, thats my issue as well, i have limited funds, and this is my only car. and i drive it every day. so i was thinking building up a si or the other d series motor, adding turbo should idealistically be a better option over a stock b16... my theory is that im gonna be driving it alot and most likely i will be speeding since there alot of open roads here. wouldnt it be better to get the motor that has been rebuilt to take the hard driving more. and hopefully i should be faster then a stock b16. and should last longer if i take care of it. over just getting a stock b16 swap and hoping nothing happens... also it just seems like a better idea to spend more of the money makeing the motor better then getting the motor to even fit. and im guessing by the time im tired of the turbo set up i can have enough cash to go b16a or gsr and do it right... i guess maybe im anwsering my own question?

[outofstep]

or maybe my question was has anyone tried a similar dseries turbo set up? i havent really heard much all i hear is b16 this and that heh i wanna be diffrent, or is it just a bad swap for what i need?

[outofstep]

http://asia.vtec.net/article/d15b/

i think this is the motor. which is better this or si?

[SiZ]

I don't see why $3500 should take all your money for a B16 swap? You can ge the motor for like $1300 or so, then about $500 for mounts, and what else do you need?

I personally think a reliable, faster, boosted D16 would be a lot more money and still not as reliable as a stock B16, or one with bolt ons.

But hey, its your car and money so do what you want.. Boost a D series, and get back to me on how cheap and reliable it is.