-
Grand Future Air Dried Fresh Beef Dog Food
Air Dried Dog Food | Fresh Beef

Carnivore Diet for Dogs

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Engineering/ Technical > Forced Induction
Register FAQ Community
Forced Induction Discuss topics relating to turbochargers, superchargers, and nitrous oxide systems.
Reply Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 11-05-2003, 10:47 PM
prelude9384 prelude9384 is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 13
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Turbo Confusion.......

Ok I want to boost my f22 in my prelude s...but I'm not that familar with turbos. I'm looking at the turbos on this site http://import-palace.com/ and I don't know which one too choose. Think I can run a turbo on my car without building up the engine for the turbo?(keep in my mind I want to keep it a daily driver and I'm not looking run alot of PSI's). So which one would I choose and can I run a turbo w/o buliding up the engine and keeping it as a daily driver???
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-08-2003, 08:52 PM
sageprime1 sageprime1 is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 147
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to sageprime1
Re: Turbo Confusion.......

Quote:
Originally Posted by prelude9384
Ok I want to boost my f22 in my prelude s...but I'm not that familar with turbos. I'm looking at the turbos on this site http://import-palace.com/ and I don't know which one too choose. Think I can run a turbo on my car without building up the engine for the turbo?(keep in my mind I want to keep it a daily driver and I'm not looking run alot of PSI's). So which one would I choose and can I run a turbo w/o buliding up the engine and keeping it as a daily driver???
Okay, i didn't go to that site, but i can tell you that if you have a relatively young engine you don't have to do any internal work if your gonna run say 5-7 psi daily. Most stage I turbo kits don't require any internal work. However, stage II and higher, you want to upgrade your pistons and rods. In some cases, you would want to upgrade your springs and retainers. You should definitely sleeve you cylinders if your running, i think, over 12psi. Just to let you know, i turbocharged my RSX with a stage I kit, which was a bolt on kit without any internal work, however, an Apexi S-AFC II is being used to keep the system optimized.

lets break it down: stage I, 10-12psi or less=no internal upgrades
stage II, 12-20psi=pistons,rods, and sleeves defintely
stage III, 20-30psi=pistons, rods, springs, retainers, sleeves, and a fmu.....stage IV, same thing as stage III, but u also want a engine managment system as well


If you engine has years on it, honestly, i don't know what you definitely should upgrade, but my best guess would be rods and pistons if you plan to run less than 12psi.
__________________
HEY...it's not my fault, the car sees u and it sees that u've been defeated!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-08-2003, 09:14 PM
disbboi disbboi is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 34
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Re: Turbo Confusion.......

[quote=sageprime1] 20-30psi=pistons, rods, springs, retainers, sleeves, and a fmu [quote]

i dunno know about you but i wouldn't use a fmu at 20 psi and whats up with the stages. and yes you sould be able to run a turbo at low boost with stock internals, but your engine is almost 10 years old so ill at least do a compression and leak down test.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-09-2003, 12:48 AM
sageprime1 sageprime1 is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 147
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to sageprime1
Re: Re: Re: Turbo Confusion.......

[quote=disbboi][quote=sageprime1] 20-30psi=pistons, rods, springs, retainers, sleeves, and a fmu
Quote:

i dunno know about you but i wouldn't use a fmu at 20 psi and whats up with the stages. and yes you sould be able to run a turbo at low boost with stock internals, but your engine is almost 10 years old so ill at least do a compression and leak down test.
I agree with the compression and leak test, but why not use a fmu at 20psi???
__________________
HEY...it's not my fault, the car sees u and it sees that u've been defeated!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-10-2003, 12:49 AM
93hybridaccord 93hybridaccord is offline
AF Regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 162
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
It would definately be too much fuel pressure. I always wonder why people say I still want to use it as a daily driver. The thing that is nice about turbos is you can always change what you are boosting. Especially if you have a electronic boost controller. You wanna run 12 psi at the track, do it, you wanna run 7 psi for the street, it's just a couple pushes of a button away.
__________________
93 accord - jdm h22a

2003 srt-4 - daily driver
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-13-2003, 09:07 PM
vatoloco28 vatoloco28 is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 5
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Turbo Confusion.......

what is the best turbo for a vtec prelude
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-13-2003, 09:54 PM
93hybridaccord 93hybridaccord is offline
AF Regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 162
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Re: Turbo Confusion.......

Quote:
Originally Posted by vatoloco28
what is the best turbo for a vtec prelude
There is no best turbo for a specific car. It all depends on what you wanna do with it. How much hp you lookin for? How much lag are you willing to live with? Is it an auto or stick? What year is the engine? The earlier vtec engines are better for boosting cause they have a closed deck. Is the engine stock or built? Is the engine mildly built or totally built? Answer those questions and then you might be able to get an answer.
__________________
93 accord - jdm h22a

2003 srt-4 - daily driver
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-13-2003, 09:56 PM
Dumped91Hatch's Avatar
Dumped91Hatch Dumped91Hatch is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 637
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Re: Turbo Confusion.......

Quote:
Originally Posted by vatoloco28
what is the best turbo for a vtec prelude
The one that forces air into the intake mainifold!




















J/K I'm sure whatever one you pick is the best one. People just don't understand that there is no perfect, or best or whatever. You get one you use it, tune it, and voila!!!!!! Now it's the best one for your motor.
__________________

Check out my car here My 91 Hatch
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-14-2003, 12:44 PM
sageprime1 sageprime1 is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 147
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to sageprime1
I would have to agree. Tuning the engine to optimize the performance with the turbocharger is best. The only thing I would add is that a smaller charger spoils faster, but is limited to the amount of power it will expel. You want to know how much boost you want and then get the correct size turbo. A bigger turbo will spoil not as fast as a smaller one, however if you have 2 of the same kind of car, one with a smaller turbo than the other and both vehicles are optimized, the one with the smaller turbine will kick out the power quicker and will give you a faster jump on the line, but down the road, the one with the bigger turbine will produce a higher output.
__________________
HEY...it's not my fault, the car sees u and it sees that u've been defeated!!!!
Reply With Quote
 
Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Want to turbo a 96 Eclipse 2.0 non turbo donidavis Engine, Transmission and Drivetrain 7 12-02-2010 09:23 AM
86 celica turbo 4 sale celica 86 turbo Classifieds 0 04-16-2009 03:42 AM
Ford Probe 1992 2,2 turbo ptq Probe 0 04-13-2009 04:30 PM
89 probe gt turbo TURBO LEAKAGE sweetbiker Probe 0 03-08-2009 05:25 PM
Turbo Confused ItalianStallion Accord/TSX/Accord Hybrid 2 01-06-2002 11:10 PM

Reply

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Engineering/ Technical > Forced Induction


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:15 AM.

Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 
 
no new posts