Going sleeper

[EC0T3C]

Im gunna look basically stock exept for some graphics and exaust. I will have around $600 to spend. Ive already decided that i am going to get Headers and a full exaust and a home made wai so basically i have $100 more dollars to spend. What should i do? Oh yea i have a 2003 Ecotec Cavalier.

[Layla's Keeper]

Hmmm.... $100? I'd suggest a thinner head gasket to boost compression ratio and then track down your local boneyard to hunt down bigger GM injectors and fuel pump. I'd think that a Malibu or a 4cylinder Grand Am would be a good place to look.

[90gs]

....do you even know what a sleeper is?

not modding your car very much doesnt make it a sleeper. slapping gay ricey graphics all over your car doesnt make it a sleeper either. a sleeper is a car that looks stock and is FAST. if all you do is exhaust and header it wont be a sleeper just because it is close to stock because it will also be slow.

[EC0T3C]

Originally Posted by 90gs

....do you even know what a sleeper is?

not modding your car very much doesnt make it a sleeper. slapping gay ricey graphics all over your car doesnt make it a sleeper either. a sleeper is a car that looks stock and is FAST. if all you do is exhaust and header it wont be a sleeper just because it is close to stock because it will also be slow.

I meant to say i maight be putting graphics on it. I was typing in a hurry. Thats not all i plan on doing. But in a couple years i plan on doing a turbo.

[90gs]

if you put a single graphic on it then it wont be a sleeper. it has to look stock. some faggy lightning bolt or japanese writing or MUGEN symbol will make it rice, not sleeper.

[SpyderEclipseGst]

Originally Posted by 90gs

if you put a single graphic on it then it wont be a sleeper. it has to look stock. some faggy lightning bolt or japanese writing or MUGEN symbol will make it rice, not sleeper.

I disagree alittle. The lightning bolt or graphics dont make a car rice or is it faggy. Some cars just need the help of graphics or the stickers just to make the owner drive it everyday because of the shitty stock form. I may be doing black tribal from the front to the back to help that viper red paint to show out alittle more. Along with a column of stickers on each front door panel(turbo xs, greddy, etc, all the manufactures i actually bought things from). I wont be a sleeper, who actually cares if you have a fast sleeper. Within a week ill be hitting the 13's with the new turbo(hopefully, gst's with similar mods are hitting 13's with ease). But if this puts me in the ricer catagory, well my rice tastes better than yours...

[Polygon]

I would agree that putting any graphics would not make it a sleeper. A sleeping is a car that doesn't really look like it is fast but it is. Adding graphics give the illusion of speed.

[Neutrino]

i'm sorry to say but till you rebuild the engine and put a turbo aka blowing over $6000 just for the engine at least the cav will not be a sleeper....


you should put the money you have and try to iprove the handling then take it to some autocross courses...there you only need skill and handling...power is usualy much less important on those courses

[Cl0ak]

I don't think thats a sleeper since the graphics will make most people think your fast (if they watched fast+furious this is the conclusion most people draw sad to say). The best sleepers are like my car (87 grand national) no one expects the rust bucket to haul ass but if I had a noisy exhaust and "ghetto pro-street" down the side than they'd think twice about racing me or be too busy laughing to race me.

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by Cl0ak

I don't think thats a sleeper since the graphics will make most people think your fast (if they watched fast+furious this is the conclusion most people draw sad to say). The best sleepers are like my car (87 grand national) no one expects the rust bucket to haul ass but if I had a noisy exhaust and "ghetto pro-street" down the side than they'd think twice about racing me or be too busy laughing to race me.

sorry but anyone that knows anything about cars will spot your grand national a mile away...even disguised as a regular regal...i would still be suspicious.....


so imo grand nationals are not the best sleepers....too notorious

[GirlracerZrule]

ahhh what are you thinking............no gay graphics eww yucky. No no don't you know anything about cars? Import stickers don't make your car go faster son. lol comon now. And you don't even know whata sleep0r is gosh you need a role model............ I gota sleep0r i gota 86' with a shitty paint job and the hood is spray painted black so its grayish lol everyone laughs at it but its ok. i love it and plus they don't laugh once they race me. And everything in the engine is stock like all my headers and pistons and shit its all stock everyone thinks its slow at first. I gota question tho.............. what do you suggest should i make it look nicer like get a new paint job and get the windows re-tinted and get some nice rims and new tires? or should i just keep it sleep0r style? because i use to want to get it fixed up nice but now i'm kinda likeing this sleep0r shit becuase everyone thinks i'm slow so they never wanna race me and they get all cocky but then at the end i always beat em. so whatcha guyz think?

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by GirlracerZrule

ahhh what are you thinking............no gay graphics eww yucky. No no don't you know anything about cars? Import stickers don't make your car go faster son. lol comon now. And you don't even know whata sleep0r is gosh you need a role model............ I gota sleep0r i gota 86' with a shitty paint job and the hood is spray painted black so its grayish lol everyone laughs at it but its ok. i love it and plus they don't laugh once they race me. And everything in the engine is stock like all my headers and pistons and shit its all stock everyone thinks its slow at first. I gota question tho.............. what do you suggest should i make it look nicer like get a new paint job and get the windows re-tinted and get some nice rims and new tires? or should i just keep it sleep0r style? because i use to want to get it fixed up nice but now i'm kinda likeing this sleep0r shit becuase everyone thinks i'm slow so they never wanna race me and they get all cocky but then at the end i always beat em. so whatcha guyz think?

so when you say 86 i presume you mean a corola gts aka trueno right?

[Decoy]

EC0T3C.. Who cares if it's not a sleeper, turn your car into rice that bites back Nowadays it seems anything with a sticker, wing or a new set of rims is rice. Of course, a cavaliar isn't the best choice to do that with But, if you want that bit of extra kick in the car, then go ahead And with the extra $100. Send it to me

[EC0T3C]

Originally Posted by Neutrino

i'm sorry to say but till you rebuild the engine and put a turbo aka blowing over $6000 just for the engine at least the cav will not be a sleeper....


you should put the money you have and try to iprove the handling then take it to some autocross courses...there you only need skill and handling...power is usualy much less important on those courses

I laugh at that quote of money. Turbo kit= 2500 for more than 10psi, Forged internals= 700, Lightweight flywheel/ clutch assembly= 600, Exaust= less than 200, suspention mods= ~500, and pully system= ~150. Add that all up and you have ~4650.

[EC0T3C]

And if you give me the money for that ill have a 12 second car.