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11-04-2003, 10:44 AM
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Camaro VS Firebird
This may be an age old comment or question, but here goes. Why is it that many firebird owners can not accept the fact that if they race against a camaro...(Within the same category..ex. v6's/v8's SS/WS6 z/28/trans am) it would be the drivers race. I know a kid with a 95 trans am..6 speed and claims he has never lost a race (Street race) to a Z/28 and also claims that he can actually run with the F-body SS. I may believe that he has never lost a race to a Z/28 because as i said earlier it would be a drivers race...but I tell him he's full of shit when he claims to be able to run his stock trans am with an SS. I have a 96 z/28 6 speed and have lost to other f body z/28s..and have beaten them...same with firebirds. Also...this kid always backs down when I egg him on to race me
  Tell me what you think, and am i wrong in realizing that firebirds and camaros are basically the same exact car. Thanks alot 
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#2
11-04-2003, 03:40 PM
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they are essentially the same car, the firebird was brought out by pontiac in response to the camaro so maybe its a grudge thing...next time he tries to tell you something just tell him he wouldnt be driving it if it werent for your z28
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#3
11-04-2003, 08:55 PM
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I've heard that several times from pontiac guys against chevy guys, but I never hear it the other way around. I say whenever someone makes a remark like that, make him prove it against your own car
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2001 Camaro SS #2239 of 6332 1/4 mile time: 13.575 @ 105.55 mph, 60' time: 2.276 307.1 rwhp, 330.1 rwtq = 353.2 hp, 379.5 lb ft torque Options: SLP Front Grille w/ SS Center Logo, 17" ZR1 Chrome rims, 6 speed, Hurst Short Throw Shifter, Monsoon 500 Watt Sound System, T-tops, 1LE Performance Suspension Mods: Holley PS Air Filter, SLP Air Box Lid w/ Mr. Ed's pipe fix, SLP CAI, SLP Bellows, SLP LM, SLP Y-pipe, SLP 160 Thermo, SLP Temp Module, SLP STB, KBDD SFC |
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11-04-2003, 10:29 PM
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Re: Camaro VS Firebird
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11-04-2003, 11:29 PM
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11-04-2003, 11:34 PM
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and another thing, its kinda off topic, mabye its just me, but i have seen no anniversary firebirds/trans ams (whatever, 2 many names for one car) whereas there is one for camaro every 5 yrs. i saw this one on the net a while ago, it claimed to be a 25th anniversary, and it was a 94, but from my understanding, the camaro and firebird started the same year, so that would be a lie, but other than that, no anniversary cars, anybody know why?
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#7
11-05-2003, 09:32 AM
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Re: Camaro VS Firebird
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I was also a little shocked to see that the last camaros dont have any kind of special edition insignia...like 'Goodbye' or 'So long' maybe because (hopefully) GM is just waiting for a perfect 5th gen camaro blueprint to be created...then chevy will rule even more...muhahahhaha MUHAHAHAHHAHA
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#8
11-05-2003, 11:29 AM
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All the 35th badging when on the 35th LE SS's in 2002. I'd love to get my hands on one of those...
As for my experience racing TA's, I have no problem with LT1 TA's. They get a good launch with me, but I just pull on them on the top end. Same old, same old. As for an LS1 TA, I've not been fortunate enough to race one. All of my buddies are heavily modded (LS6 conversions, TQ converters, Powerdyne Supercharger, as well as a few others). If I were to come across one that was modded similar to mine, I'd run him in a heartbeat to find out...
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2001 Camaro SS #2239 of 6332 1/4 mile time: 13.575 @ 105.55 mph, 60' time: 2.276 307.1 rwhp, 330.1 rwtq = 353.2 hp, 379.5 lb ft torque Options: SLP Front Grille w/ SS Center Logo, 17" ZR1 Chrome rims, 6 speed, Hurst Short Throw Shifter, Monsoon 500 Watt Sound System, T-tops, 1LE Performance Suspension Mods: Holley PS Air Filter, SLP Air Box Lid w/ Mr. Ed's pipe fix, SLP CAI, SLP Bellows, SLP LM, SLP Y-pipe, SLP 160 Thermo, SLP Temp Module, SLP STB, KBDD SFC |
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11-05-2003, 04:53 PM
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This is so dumb they are they are same car.
I saw a 30th anniversary Trans Am in person and I just stared at it for about 15 minutes wishing it was mine. The last year TA special edition yellow with screaming chicken are kinda ugly. |
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#10
11-06-2003, 09:17 AM
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Re: Camaro VS Firebird
As for an LS1 TA, I've not been fortunate enough to race one. All of my buddies are heavily modded (LS6 conversions, TQ converters, Powerdyne Supercharger, as well as a few others). If I were to come across one that was modded similar to mine, I'd run him in a heartbeat to find out...[/quote]
Yea I hear ya. good times |
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#11
11-07-2003, 12:27 PM
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Funny, this discussion was brought up last night amongst my group a frineds.
We all seemed to agree that in most cases the Firebird seemed to oust the Camaro. Surmising the same as you guys, the two cars are identical and it should come down to the driver. Most road tests use the same guy to run each car, and in most of those cases the Firebird was tenths faster all the way around. Not trying to start anything here, but this was just a group of us that get together on Thursdays and talk. I think some detailed searching would yield some intersting results. Stock for Stock, and I am biased, I would take the Trans Am. Chris |
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#12
11-07-2003, 03:17 PM
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I lost to a red 3rdgen Camaro 305 with my Firebird
 . It was pretty sweet though he pulled up to me next to me and at the same time we said to each other "nice car". Two bright red 3rd gen f-bodies riding side by side, both cars in good condition, and I'm guessing his was stock as well he even had the stock exhaust. He guns it a second later I gun it. That 305 pulled pretty good but after a couple seconds are slowly began to creep up to him. He let off before I got near him though since he had to turn into his neighborhood, so I lost. Race only lasted for like 5 seconds but still cool as hell. That doesn't have to do much with the 4th gen F-bodies, so eh yeah I agree though Firehawk vs SLP SS, Trans Am vs SS, Formula vs Z28, V6 vs V6, there isn't a damn difference.
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11-08-2003, 09:55 AM
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"the camaro and firebird started the same year"
Camaro = 1967 Firebird = 1968
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11-09-2003, 12:11 AM
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#15
11-10-2003, 06:46 PM
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Do you really want to kill firebirds
Hey guys, I used to have a firebird until I got serious and decided to go with real man power. I wanted to pass this information on to all of you about a camaro performance shop that I do business with in Houston that have great parts at outrageous prices. I just bought Chrome Z06 Rims for $825 and they are having a 15% moving sale and I want you all to get good deals on all of your performance needs.
Tell Mike Williams that Josh sent you and they might give you a even better deal! camaroperformanceconcepts.bravehost.com Thanks Josh |
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