RSX type S or WRX

[aznxthuggie]

i know this has been asked again and again, but i just dont think i can get insight the way i wanted unless i asked myself. Right now i have a 96 honda accord Ex but i'll be giving it to my bro pretty soon, im torn between the Acura RSX and the Subaru Impreza WRX. There are a few good/bad things i've heard about both.

for the Acura RSX, reliability is taken forgranted because its a honda, but other than that.. i dont see it any better/faster than the wrx, being that its fwd, it has 200hp.. and it has i-vtec (i think) the WRX on the other hand, is faster/turbo/awd which are ALL aspects of it that i like, but reliability is an issue here.. i see integras left and right where i live, but seldomly see old wrx/imprezas, so im guessin subaru cars dont last long?

as for looks i love both, if i get the RSX (since its going to be usdm) im going to throw in a lil cash to make it look just like the TYPE R in japan, and as for performance, im not sure there is anything that you can do to the RSX that can make a HUGE leap of power

for the WRX i like the way i looks, i would probably just put the rally spoiler, and the STI hood scoop, there seems to be much more you can do to it, being that its a turbo car, and with any turbo car there is.. BOOST... i could throw almost any turbocharger with around the same level of boost and it would be stronger, the price, is about the same so i dont really care about that.. anyways enough of my talkin.. plz give me your thoughts about this

[Mendari]

By getting the Subaru, you greatly reduce your probability of getting your car broken into/vandalized by the Honda kiddies. As for reliability, check with the Consumer Reports magazine for statistical info.
Also, the WRX engine produces much more torque at low R.P.M.'s. This is where most of your driving will take place. The Honda cult followers will start yapping about the high specific output of Honda engines. But if you think about it with a mature mind, you start to question how often you will actually be driving with your engine revving at 9000 R.P.M.

[Shelleycat]

Originally Posted by aznxthuggie

WRX on the other hand, is faster/turbo/awd which are ALL aspects of it that i like, but reliability is an issue here.. i see integras left and right where i live, but seldomly see old wrx/imprezas, so im guessin subaru cars dont last long?

I've been driving a Subaru Impreza Wagon for several years now - thought I'd be moving to a rainier climate and got it for safety and practicality. I bought it used and the clutch needed to be replaced, outside of that it's been rock solid. No problems except for a touchy engine warning light, which comes on if I don't put the fuel cap on exactly right. No big deal.

I researched into upgrading to a more powerful WRX and it seems that the clutch can be an issue, but it's the only one. The WRX is a great car. Forresters had a rotten ball bearing problem for several years, otherwise Subaru's repair/reliability history is darn good. I say if you like the looks go for the WRX. And if you get a wagon instead of a sedan, no one will look at you twice even if you're cruising around at 80 mph.

I test drove the RSX type S and knew I'd have to tinker with it to be really happy with it. The stock tires were chirpy, ride was a tad uncomfortable, and while it's very fast compared to other cars in its class, it doesn't *feel* fast. Love that gearbox tho! And the hatchback space is so convenient to have. A really great car, just not one that would be great for long distance road trips.

Hope that helps!

[tran_nsx]

how much are for each vehicle? my inference would 30g's for the wrx and 24g's for the rsx. its cool that the wrx has 300 hp right from the factory, but what i don't like about it is the looks. to me its just plain butt ugly, but hey it does a lo 13 sec 1/4 mile so i can't complain, but i think thats only in the sti. the rsx has more appeal and if u want speed check this out, http://www.revhard.com/turbo_kits.html u'll be able to easlily hang with them and u also get the look for under 30g's.

[got v-tec?]

Originally Posted by tran_nsx

but what i don't like about it is the looks. to me its just plain butt ugly, but hey it does a lo 13 sec 1/4 mile so i can't complain, but i think thats only in the sti. the rsx has more appeal and if u want speed check this out, http://www.revhard.com/turbo_kits.html u'll be able to easlily hang with them and u also get the look for under 30g's.

Personaly i think the wrx looks bad ass! it would be pretty tight if they made a black one though. but think of it this way,the rsx-type s is already really close in 1/4 mile comparison, ad a turbo to the rsx and you'll be smoking the wrx not to mention s2ooo, z3, 350z, rx-8 ect...

[aznxthuggie]

Originally Posted by tran_nsx

how much are for each vehicle? my inference would 30g's for the wrx and 24g's for the rsx. its cool that the wrx has 300 hp right from the factory, but what i don't like about it is the looks. to me its just plain butt ugly, but hey it does a lo 13 sec 1/4 mile so i can't complain, but i think thats only in the sti. the rsx has more appeal and if u want speed check this out, http://www.revhard.com/turbo_kits.html u'll be able to easlily hang with them and u also get the look for under 30g's.

well the WRX is about 25gz and the STI is about 30, but the RSX type-S is 23gz but the rsx is an integra so.. its jus like buying an integra.. and the wrx.. is.. AWD TURBO RALLY INSPIRED

[tran_nsx]

Originally Posted by aznxthuggie

well the WRX is about 25gz and the STI is about 30, but the RSX type-S is 23gz but the rsx is an integra so.. its jus like buying an integra.. and the wrx.. is.. AWD TURBO RALLY INSPIRED

the regular wrx to me isn't worth it. yes it's turbo and yes it's all wheel drive but have u compare the power each one makes? the wrx has a 2.0 l engine with turbo and it's only making 227? the type-s with no turbo makes 200. now throw in a turbo and it would definately kick a$$. oh with the awd rally inspired goes, come on are u really going to buy the car and take it to an autocross or rally everyweekend? if u are then hey bye all mean get the wrx, but if u want a car for everyday driving, i would stick with the rsx and turbo that. hell i had a disscussion with one of the guys and u can easily gain 220whp with the rsx with simple bolt ons i/h/e/cs (i,h,e,=25, toda camshafts=25), thats about 250hp at the crank. but something tells me you got your eyes on the wrx already, either way as long as your happy thats all that matters.

[rsxturbo43]

i have a rsx type s w/ turbo and my friend has a wrx. our cars are now pretty much the same but mine is faster but he can take some corners quicker. when deciding on the wrx or rsx it just depends on what you like more awd help but it can be bad the same just like fwd it all comes down to what the perpose of the car is and which one is best for you

ps my rsx will beet wrx by 2 cars and wrx have bad trannys ive had frineds replace theres at least twice

[mycivic]

my personnal opinion would be the subaru. each car has its own pros and cons and its up to you what pros and cons you wanna go with. with regards to reliability...i think that all cars (domestic/imports) are reliable as long as you take care of the car...take care of the car and it will take care of you.

[sageprime1]

Another site to consider is www.cybernationmotorsports.com REad and then think. Also,to add to what was said, yes a turbo RSX will kill the suburu...and yes they do have weak tranny's it was mentioned in the Turbo magazine i think.
I have a stage I turbo in my RSx and have beaten the suburu, but it was really really close, not 2 cars length. Just so i don't sound byass, the STI is a killer if you add an apexi S-AFC and a boost controller and optimize the stock dynamics. \you really gain some whp, i've seen it at a dyno meet.

[FinGainUrass]

dude i dun really know what to tell you ...

[ghetto7o2azn]

[quote=tran_nsx]the regular wrx to me isn't worth it. yes it's turbo and yes it's all wheel drive but have u compare the power each one makes? the wrx has a 2.0 l engine with turbo and it's only making 227? the type-s with no turbo makes 200. now throw in a turbo and it would definately kick a$$.QUOTE]

the only reason that the rsx makes that much power is because of its vtech which the wrx doesnt have, but because of this the wrx can get a bigger turbo and be put under more psi... the vtech as well as vvti make engines harder to turbo... did you kno that race teams remove the vvti & vtech off of cars that come with it before puting out high numbers??? i dont think you would be "kicking a$$"... the wrx's capabilites are higher and it will launch faster... even if ur rsx had 700hp it would be a hell of a job just trying to get that power to the ground... well theres something to think about

[tran_nsx]

[quote=ghetto7o2azn]

Originally Posted by tran_nsx

the only reason that the rsx makes that much power is because of its vtech which the wrx doesnt have, but because of this the wrx can get a bigger turbo and be put under more psi... the vtech as well as vvti make engines harder to turbo... did you kno that race teams remove the vvti & vtech off of cars that come with it before puting out high numbers??? i dont think you would be "kicking a$$"... the wrx's capabilites are higher and it will launch faster... even if ur rsx had 700hp it would be a hell of a job just trying to get that power to the ground... well theres something to think about

oh come on, that excuse is really lame, that's like saying the only reason why the wrx is fast is because it has a turbo. all i was pointing out is that if the rsx had a turbo to equal the wrx, then rsx would still win. even if it was the regular rsx with no vtec, not vtech , then it can be able to add more boost unlike it's vtec brother.

[ghetto7o2azn]

ok id like to see u put a honda s2000 under 25 psi without removing the vtech... lol yeah right... the fact is that cars with stock turbos are built with stronger engines and can most likely and in this case can withstand more psi than an n/a car...

oh yeah and its really stupid when u correct spelling.. everyone knows what i was talking about and people usually use it when they get pissed of and they cant find anything else to say negatively about the person... so basically what im trying to say is... i think ur sad lol

one more thing... when u said "even if it was a regular rsx with no v-tec" ummmm... the base model does have v-tec which leads me to believe that you dont know what the hell ur talking about...

[tran_nsx]

Originally Posted by ghetto7o2azn

ok id like to see u put a honda s2000 under 25 psi without removing the vtech... lol yeah right... the fact is that cars with stock turbos are built with stronger engines and can most likely and in this case can withstand more psi than an n/a car...

oh yeah and its really stupid when u correct spelling.. everyone knows what i was talking about and people usually use it when they get pissed of and they cant find anything else to say negatively about the person... so basically what im trying to say is... i think ur sad lol

one more thing... when u said "even if it was a regular rsx with no v-tec" ummmm... the base model does have v-tec which leads me to believe that you dont know what the hell ur talking about...

first off, i'll admit it, i was wrong about the base rsx not having vtec, im not the kind of guy who is going to get all defensive about it. so now that is clear, vtec isn't really helping much since it's only making 160 hp and 141 lbs/tq on the base version, so that is no excuse.

with your first paragraph, i have no idea what your trying to prove. now lets focus on the rsx type-s and the wrx. ok the wrx is a 2.0, same as the type-s correct? my point, now im going to compare two vehicles with the same displacement, so the sti isn't included. now the wrx if im not mistaken makes 227hp at the crank. at the wheels would be around 195hp. the advantage of the wrx is main because if the turbo, so lets say we added a turbo to the rsx.

now do u see a difference in power? at 6 psi, its is now making 254 whp.
yes the rsx gots vtec but hey the wrx gots awd.

lastly how about learn how to spell vtec, its not very hard u see? chances are, but i really hope not, guys like u is what give asian guys a bad rep about their imports.