worth spending more money on "better" brand name parts

[01IntegraGSR]

ok i got an 01 GSR... would it really do much or worth spending say, a couple hundred more on "higher quailty" parts like a venom fuel rail to a AEM one. plus.... will someone refresh my thoughts on the 4-2-1 heads to 4-1?? my mind went blank on which one is for more torque and HP higher in RPM's thanks

[whtteg]

Ok with the gsr you are going to want the 4-1 header dc sports JDM style works nice, they fit perfect and don't leak, don't go cheap on the header. Now as far as the fuel rail your stock fuel rail will provide enough fuel to support more hp than you will porbably ever be seeing (alot). And as far as intakes go get a cheap intake off ebay and buy a K&N filter for it and you have a good intake, AEM intakes are over pricced and not worth the money IMO. The key to a good intake is that you have a good filter the piping on the ebay inakes are fine but the filters are crap and should not be used at all if you care about your car at all. K&N filters are what AEM uses and are the best IMO or Apexi Funnel Ram filters are good too.

[90_IntegraLS]

Originally Posted by whtteg

Ok with the gsr you are going to want the 4-1 header dc sports JDM style works nice, they fit perfect and don't leak, don't go cheap on the header. Now as far as the fuel rail your stock fuel rail will provide enough fuel to support more hp than you will porbably ever be seeing (alot). And as far as intakes go get a cheap intake off ebay and buy a K&N filter for it and you have a good intake, AEM intakes are over pricced and not worth the money IMO. The key to a good intake is that you have a good filter the piping on the ebay inakes are fine but the filters are crap and should not be used at all if you care about your car at all. K&N filters are what AEM uses and are the best IMO or Apexi Funnel Ram filters are good too.

I wouldn't say any intake you'll want it ceramic coated otherwise it's going to act like a heat pipe for the air and do nothing but heat it up. AEM is what I'll be going with once I get the cash $115 locally. They are ceramic coated and designed for YOUR car no just a general intake that's fits iteg, civics, ... It's actually made for you car. The piping is 2 3/4 in instead of 3 in. like the ones on eBay. While you may think that that would reduce the air since it's smaller piping it actually helps because it doesn't disrupt the flow of air by changing the diameter of the tubing used. Oh and a good K&N cone is going to run you probably $40 to $50 and the intakes off of eBay will run $25-$35 shipped. So lets put the low price for the intake with K&N off of eBay $25 + $40 = $65

$115 - 65 = $50 so $50 more for the AEM (and with this you know your getting quality) and that's using the cheapest prices you're likely to find online.


Jared

[BigBoyB]

aem short ram may cost 115 but for a cold air they're gonna run around $180 so if you want a cai then you better keep savin.

[90_IntegraLS]

Originally Posted by BigBoyB

aem short ram may cost 115 but for a cold air they're gonna run around $180 so if you want a cai then you better keep savin.

Yes Short ram air system is what I was referring to and that was because in my area you might as well dump water in your gas if you buy a cai (missouri). So for the 2 - 4 hp gain from having cai versus the cost of hydro locking my engine just wasn't worth it. Also most cai don't have anything to keep moisture out of the cai like aem does and even then it isn't sure fire so unless you live where it is generally dry about 80% of the time it 2 -4 hp isn't worth the cost of the engine. my So in reply to the original post for most things you pay for what you get. If you're wanting a fuel rail for dress-up purposes get one off of ebay as they will be comperable to stock just don't get the cheapest one.

Jared

[whtteg]

Originally Posted by 90_IntegraLS

Yes Short ram air system is what I was referring to and that was because in my area you might as well dump water in your gas if you buy a cai (missouri). So for the 2 - 4 hp gain from having cai versus the cost of hydro locking my engine just wasn't worth it. Also most cai don't have anything to keep moisture out of the cai like aem does and even then it isn't sure fire so unless you live where it is generally dry about 80% of the time it 2 -4 hp isn't worth the cost of the engine. my So in reply to the original post for most things you pay for what you get. If you're wanting a fuel rail for dress-up purposes get one off of ebay as they will be comperable to stock just don't get the cheapest one.

Jared

AEM has nothing other than the bypass valve to keep WATER not moisture out and the bypass valve is extra and can be installed on any intake system. All you are paying for with AEM is expensive tube, and as far as it being ceramic coated how does that help when with your short ram you are going to be sucking upi air right from the header and other hot things so the air will be hot already and the ceramic coating is useless,

[90_IntegraLS]

if that is how you feel...the non coated intakes retain heat and act like a heater themselves. So if you feel the need to heat up your air then go right ahead. the aem is at MOST $50 more and more realistically about $25 - 35. The AEM is going to be built better because is not some 1/16in piece of round sheet metal. It's going to be made for the model of car and not some generic fits 15+ cars. So if the $25 you'll save is that important...

[tran_nsx]

for the best power gains go with the aem cai, they have been tested numerous times against competitors and have always came out on top. the only other intake system now that can beat aem's cai is the new v2 cai by aem. also another good reason to go with aem is because they are also carb certifed, so u don't have to put your stock intake back in when u get a fix-it-ticket from the cops or when u get a smog test.

short ram intakes are almost useless, they only gain 1-2 horse power depending on car and they suck in hot air from the engine bay. its main selling point is the appearance and the noise that u hear from it sucking in hot air.

have u actually look at your oem intake system? that is basically a cold air intake, if u don't believe me go look. its recieving cold air from infront of the radiator, then goes left toward the intake box, and finally going into the engine. the only problem with this system though is that theres so many restrictions and the filter frankly sucks.

just wanna finsh with this line-- u get what u pay for, and quality isn't cheap.

[99civic03]

Also most cai don't have anything to keep moisture out of the cai like aem does and even then it isn't sure fire so unless you live where it is generally dry about 80% of the time it 2 -4 hp isn't worth the cost of the engine. my So in reply to the original post for most things you pay for what you get. If you're wanting a fuel rail for dress-up purposes get one off of ebay as they will be comperable to stock just don't get the cheapest one.

You my friend, are an idiot. Seriously...just shut up before you say something really stupid and get REALLY flamed.

[90_IntegraLS]

Originally Posted by 99civic03

You my friend, are an idiot. Seriously...just shut up before you say something really stupid and get REALLY flamed.

and you my friend are an ass, what the hell are you talking about

[94tegRS]

ok, first stock system is in no way a CAI

2nd, the ones on ebay arent 1/16" sheet meteal, I got a CAI with filter(cheap one) for 33 shipped, compare that with the 180 at best AEM and you can buy 5 more cheap ones.

3rd, I saw a test and the injen CAI gave the car liek .2 HP less than the AEM, it was probably the air warmed up a bit between the two tests or something.

CAI is a tube to relocat the filter to where the air is the coldest, nothing more.

now the V2 is supposedly tuned to your car, but I saw it only gave 1 HP more than the normal CAI system.

and the BPV will not let water suck into your engine, but also disrupt the smooth airflow into the engine.

[tran_nsx]

Originally Posted by 94tegRS

CAI is a tube to relocat the filter to where the air is the coldest, nothing more.

what u wrote basically describes the oem intake system, the only difference is that filter is in the middle of the tube. honda engineers design thier cars very well and the only way to get better gains is to have a more effiecient design overall, this is where aem came in and created a better tube and filter. here's a thread on cai vs. rai explaining the similarities of oem and cai system http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t27274.html

heres a link to aem's awards and recognition http://www.aempower.com/press_awards.asp. many companies have given them awards and recognize them for thier products especially their cai system. aem was also the pioneer of the cai for sport compacts, everyone else was just emulating what they created. now how many awards have injen recieved? don't get me wrong they do make some good intakes. i have also met some of thier employee's/designers (they were pretty down to earth) on one of my trips down to southern cali for a friends birthday/funeral. yeah definately was one of the wierdest nights i had. with the aem cai u also get the carb sticker so cops and smog shops can't tell crap. so if u want the best and the original, go with aem. damn i sound like a salesman

[integragsr98]

AEM's intakes is nothing but the pretty color tubes with a filter, and no the mental they use won't make a damn difference on performance. you would regret paying for so much when you can get it alot cheaper and even works better. just grab a intakes off ebay and get a K&N filter, point blank.

[90_IntegraLS]

K
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=38634

$45 shipped and that's if the bid stays as is $50 with bin. add another $50 for a K&N and you aren't saving enough to make it worth it to buy a junk intake when compaired to AEM. as posted above.

You get what you pay for. So you want cheap go to eBay. Want something that will last go AEM.

http://store.yahoo.com/racinglab/ac94invtecae1.html
found this real fast you can probably find it a lot less expensive if you look around it's $170 at a local "tuner" shop.

[Spectre927]

Yeah, the bypass valve causes the air to be sucked in from a higher point where it won't be sucking in moisture, basically cancelling the whole idea of sucking in air from outside the engine bay. I live where its usually 90 degrees and if its raining, which isnt too often, Im usually not driving. Im thinking about getting one. Iceman probably, they never seem to get as hot as other ones.