91' CRX/B16A Race axles?

[Mrock]

Hey everyone. Going to be collecting parts for my built B16A swap soon, and axles are on the list. For the power I am planning on, I will need some stronger axles. The swap is still somewhat down the road, but I want to get this stuff out of the way.
I have found the driveshaftshop's axles..but would the 88-91' *Civic* axles work for my 91' CRX? I wasn't sure if that'd be OK on my CRX or not. Any input is appreciated. The link is:

http://www.driveshaftshop.com/item83820.ctlg


Anyways, can anyone direct me to a place for some durable axles for B16A use- or let me know if those civic axles would work fine? Thanks...

[Xtreme Illusions]

try www.raxles.com

[Mrock]

Any idea how much power those axles can take? I am looking on the site, doesn't seem to mention.

Power goal after the swap, and turbo (turbo is a bit later..), is to be about 300-350hp's to the wheels. That's all I plan on for now, but once I reach that goal, I am sure I will want more..this is why I want axles that will withstand 400hp's...that should be just fine. My brother is making 400hp + on his hatch..but it is a 92, so I can't use the same axles as him, unfortunately.

[amy@af]

Originally Posted by Mrock

I have found the driveshaftshop's axles..but would the 88-91' *Civic* axles work for my 91' CRX? I wasn't sure if that'd be OK on my CRX or not. Any input is appreciated. The link is:

http://www.driveshaftshop.com/item83820.ctlg

i'm not sure what you are asking. are you asking if the 88-91 civic/crx axles will work with the b16? if so the answer is no.

i'm currently looking into the b16 swap myself. to be honest, axles are the last thing you should worry about. i wouldn't sweat those until after you get some turbo going.

here's the thing the civc/crx is more likly to bust an axle because they are uneven lengths. with the b16 there isn't such a problem. you're not going to snap one as easy. if anything i would suggest waiting on the axels and plan on getting a LSD tranny

shopping all around the net trying to find a good b16 was crazy. called several places that had good prices and found them all to be shady. decided to go with hmotorsonline.com and they are hooking us up good! everything for the complete swap for $2274 including hasport mounts & linkage, lsd, and shipping for everything.

it has been my experience in the past if you start off buying stuff not required to make the swap run...it will take that much longer to collect stuff. majority of people who have done a swap before will tell you to do the tranny now and axles later because it's easier to swap out axle's than a tranny

[amy@af]

Originally Posted by Mrock

My brother is making 400hp + on his hatch..but it is a 92, so I can't use the same axles as him, unfortunately.

that doesn't make sense. what axle you use doesn't depend on what year of car you have. it depends what engine you have in. if your brother has a b16 then you can use the same ones in your b16. a b16 is a b16 no matter which car it's bolted in.

[civickiller]

axles are the most important thing, stock axles are weak. cant handle slicks if you plan on using them. most of my friends throw slicks on there car on stock axles, always bust on the launch. stock axles cant handle. and u can trust what i say because im at the drags every month watching all my friend run and i also help them fix there cars, also supply them with extra axles if they bust theres, so trust me i know axles.

every axles is weak and usually cant handle what they say it can handle. like my friend in his crx had stage 2 dss axles, now he only has a b16 with type r cams, and he just broke his 400whp stage 2 axles from dss. another friend with has a rwd civic with h22 turbo at 12psi with stage 5 900hp axle, and he busts those really easy too

i would suggest stage 3 or 4 axles, but always keep a pair of stocks so you have something to put back in when they break. ive never heard of anyone using raxles before so i dont konw how they hold up

[Mrock]

Originally Posted by LadyNRedSi

that doesn't make sense. what axle you use doesn't depend on what year of car you have. it depends what engine you have in. if your brother has a b16 then you can use the same ones in your b16. a b16 is a b16 no matter which car it's bolted in.

Doesn't make sense? He has an LS/VTEC engine. How about now..


LadyNRedSi- I probably should have clarified about what I was asking. On the driveshaftshop.com website, they have axles that say they are made for B-series engine, and it has a dropdown menu, to select your car. It has "88-91 Civic" I believe. I was asking if those would work..I didn't see why not.

I may not be the brighest, but I know the D-series axles will not work with a B16 ...

As far as getting only the required's- you are very right, but I do not want to deal with busting some stock axles, only to replace them with these tougher ones later. The whole reason I am wanting to get the axles out of the way, is that my brother has had his engine in quite a while, and had upgraded the engine a fair amount more than before, but hadn't upgraded the axles yet. Busted them at the track, needless to say. That is why I am wanting to get a heard start on them..I am trying to learn from his misfortune, that's all.

Worse case scenario, driveshaftshop.com can always build me axles custom, because I found on their website that they do custom axles, so that's possible. If I'm planning on 300-400 whp, do you think I should go for something like 600 hp axles to withstand that? I will be running slicks down the road, but once the engine is swapped in immediately, I'll be on street tires.

[civickiller]

can you afford to buy stage 2 or 3 axles now and then stage 5 later ? because idk how long its gonna take you till you run slicks and idk how much power you gonna be making once you start runnin slicks so its hard to tell. i mean if you arent gonna be runnin slicks and making alot of hp within the next 2 years i would suggest stage 2 or 3 axles for now and save up later for stage 5s or you might just wanan buy stage 5s now or maybe buy stage 3s and see how long they hold up before breaking. but remeber always keep a stock pair incase your break, nothing worse then being at the track with no axles. its hard to tell you what to buy

[91civicDXdude]

in my experience, its the differential that breaks and not the axles

[civickiller]

yeah i was gonna mention that, after axles i would suggest getting a lsd because the stock diffs are weak and break. what happens is the little bar taht u see when you look through the axles, breaks loose and just goes spinning all around the tranny usually making a big hole and break all the gears apart.

but ive seen guys who drag alot break alot of axles then the diff, but those are guys who run at the track and not on the street as much. shit you should change everything before you get it runnin, diff, axles, syncros make everything perfect

as for lsd get a quaife one, any other one sucks. dont get a honda lsd diff, they suck. i mena if you only making near stock power then its all good but once you start making power the honda lsd will break, it cant handle

[HONDABOND]

www.raxles.com makes some burley ass axles!
But realy man, you can snap just about any axles with slicks.

[SiZ]

Originally Posted by civickiller

yeah i was gonna mention that, after axles i would suggest getting a lsd because the stock diffs are weak and break.

Thats what Ami was getting at, but do the LSD first while the motor is out.. Axles are easy to change any time!

[Mrock]

Stage 5 axles? I don't know if I'll ever NEED those, but the insurance would be nice. The LSD will come, but I want to get the engine into place, with some strong axles first. Then the car will at least be streetable. As the money comes in, the transmission will get the work done to it after that.

I e-mailed driveshaftshop.com, and they replied very quickly, informing me that they have a Stage 3 axle that will withstand up to 535hp, which should be just fine. The price is a bit steep, as the e-mail said $999.99. They then linked me to an ebay auction, where the same axles were on there for $700 (that THEY were selling, by the way...), and I did not see a reserve- although I might have missed it.

I'm definently getting a lot of help from this thread. I had thought about the differential, but not as much as I probably should have. As I said, I just need to get everything running, then I'll worry about bullet-proofing my tranny for the track.

[amy@af]

Originally Posted by SiZ

Thats what Ami was getting at, but do the LSD first while the motor is out.. Axles are easy to change any time!

both SiZ and 91civicDXdude each get a cookie

glad somebody around here is listening to me

maybe this is easier to understand....what do you have to take apart/out to change an axle? now, what do you have to take apart/out to change the tranny? it doesn't make sense to me to buy stage anything axles now and worry about tranny later. that seems bass ackwards

Originally Posted by HONDABOND

But realy man, you can snap just about any axles with slicks.

oh yea...seth can have a cookie too

[amy@af]

ps....

HASport makes JDM axles that are good up to like 300-400hp (call to find out for sure) for $175 each axle