Why is there a separate Eclipse forum for 2000+?

[YogsVR4]

I know that the car changed its styling, but most other forums aren’t broken apart this way (the Mustang and Corvette forums would be in several pieces). I know it was done for the Honda area, but there are a massive number of people in those forums. It doesn’t appear to be nearly as many here.

Just curious. Not complaining.

[talskinyguy]

my assumtion is because its a compleatly different car with the eclipse name.

[YogsVR4]

That may be the case, but that is also true for other cars throughout the forums. The Malibu, Corvette, Mustang and a hundred others have also gone through redesigns too.

I could understand it being here if there were an outcry to have it, but its been here for about a week and there are a whopping two threads (including this one). Oh well. Hopefully some more folks will be stopping in.

[Talon007]

The pre00 Eclipse and 00+ Eclipse have nothing in common. the other cars had something in common. Plus I dont want to be associated with 00+ Eclipses

[YogsVR4]

Which is my point exactly about the other cars I've mentioned. They have nothing in common either other then the name.

[Zero8985]

there really isn't a point to this forum, because i could have sworn someone started a thread about the 3g eclipse in the other forum after this one came up. It's just not going to be used.

[turbo2nr]

i still want my DSM forum..
but at least itz a start...
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[johnnyBgood]

actually the 4G64 does have interchangeable parts with the 4G63. the 63 DOHC head and turbo manifold can bolt right up.

I could care less is there is a seperate forum. That's why there is Club 3G and the Eclipseforums.org/.com

[ferrari_f50]

doesn't the 3g eclipse have some sort of relation to the 3000gt?!? i don't get why the forum is split either.

[gizzmoe]

My only guess is that because the pre 2000 eclipses are DSMs and the new ones aren't. Or it could be because the new ones don't even compare to the old ones.

[44hondaeater]

It could also be that the 3g's engine has been flipped in the RS models i.e. The trani is on the right side versus the left. there is no GS-T or AWd models available either. Comparitively the Eclipse has changed more so than say a Corvette, Mustang, Etc.

[adamzatko]

I have nothing against the 3g, I understand Mitsu wants to keep selling the cars, and a turbo car is not good for all drivers. There is the concerns on letting it cool and warm up right. As far as different boards, I would say it's the loss of the 4G63. It is not an upgrade of the old on the 3G. A perfect example of that would be the Evo VIII. It has the latest in 4G63 tech. It's no offense to 3g owners, it's more a bitterness against Mitsu for not updating the 2g styling a bit and putting in the Evo VIII motor in it.

[Crimson]

The reason they are split is because just because both are called Eclipses, they are not the same car. Earlier than 2000 they were all made with Diamond Star Motors and came with FWD/AWD turboed models. Now all Mitsu makes is economy friendly cars for chicks and guys who should be killed. To be frank with you, we would be embarassed to share the same sub forum with the 3g people, so thats my

[johnnyBgood]

Originally Posted by adamzatko

I have nothing against the 3g, I understand Mitsu wants to keep selling the cars, and a turbo car is not good for all drivers. There is the concerns on letting it cool and warm up right. As far as different boards, I would say it's the loss of the 4G63. It is not an upgrade of the old on the 3G. A perfect example of that would be the Evo VIII. It has the latest in 4G63 tech. It's no offense to 3g owners, it's more a bitterness against Mitsu for not updating the 2g styling a bit and putting in the Evo VIII motor in it.

I think the 4G64 is a progression of the 4G63. The 64 takes boost very well for those interested in the performance aspect of the car and it makes for a moderate driving car for those who are not into tuning.

At first, FI was an impossibility for the 3G. Everyone said the engine cannot handle the power. Well, they are mistaken. The 3G with the 4G64 has been supercharged with a RippMods kit running 11 psi and it looking to dyno upwards of 280 whp on stock internals. Turbo wise, the 64 has ben turbo'ed by Accelerated Autosports and has dyno'ed at 264whp/284tq at 8.5 psi on stock pistons. And the tranny (minus clutch) will handle up to 400 whp, as a member of Club 3G dyno'ed at 316 whp at 14 psi and then turned it up to 20 psi. It ran fine until he was ran up on a corner where he ripped a hole in his tranny .

Also, there is still the interchangeability of parts. Both the 2G 4G63T manifold and the EVO manifold will bolt up to the 4G64. However, the 2G manifold sits off to the left and the EVO manifold sits off to the right. So that does limit the turbo possibilitites as with the 2G manifold, a turbo no bigger than a 16G will fit and the driver will retain the AC. For the EVO, too big of a turbo will require movement of the starter. Also, the DOHC head of the 63 will bolt up to the 64. And valve springs are also interchangeable. The 63 valve springs will match up to the 64.

[mitsu_eclipse95gst]

HA HA HA holy shit does the 4G64 dish out 210 hp NO jesus crist u should be killed first and a stock 4G63 can take 18 PSI easy please man. wow 264 after spending how much get a brain i spend $150..(boost controler) 300 hp 4G64 still in a mirage lol