b16/18 turbo/supercharged

[vang]

i know i know this probally has been asked millions of times...
but after numerous searches in differnet places ive decieded its time to ask for the peoples choices... why not ask the people who acctually have these engines in their cars rather than asking some poor shmuck somewhere else...

Right now im only interested in these two engines: B16a1 and B18a/b
what is the better choice to go with...
b16a1 turbo
b16a1 supercharged
b18a/b turbo
b18a/b supercharged

which one would last the longest without any major internal modifications?
which one would be the fastest (given the same amount of mods done one it)?
Which one would be a good daily driver plus weekend shoot out at the same time?
Is there any HP/TQ differances between the b18A and b18B?
Is a turbo more high maintenance than a supercharger?
Is it true that the b18a/b drops right in the 88-91 civic/crx engine bay without any banging and pounding like you have to do on the b16a1 to make the alternater fit?
How hard is it to go from OBD-0 to OBD-1 or OBD-2
Can you go from hydro tranny to cable tranny (vice versa)?

Ive heard many things on both engines and i dont know which one to go with... both seem to be equal except for the fact that ones vtec and one has more tourqe... i would go ls/vtec but thats a whole new ball game for me... for now im just looking for a motor...
any help is greatly appreciated...

[Marc-OS]

b18 would be better for turbo, probably supercharger too. Although I would go with turbo because they are generally more efficient than superchargers on 4 cyl. engines. B16 could handle either one, but couldn't take as much boost as the b18 could.

[civickiller]

b16 supercharged. bolt it on drop the motor in and u dont gotta worry about it again.

i think the b16 would last the longest
i think the b16 would be the fastest
b16 is a good daily driver but ls is just as good
90-91 b18a 130hp 92-93 b18a 140hp b18b 140hp
yes a turbo is more high maintanence than a jrsc but like a vortech, its the same.
the samethings u gotta do to make the b16 fit is the same to make the b18 fit
not hard to go to obd0 to obd1, they sell converison harnesses for that, same thing for obd2 to obd1.
yeah u can go from cable to hydro as well as hydro to cable, hasports sells both types

[vang]

b16a1 supercharged
b18a/b turbo

okay now out of these two engines which one is better?
any flaws with this setup?
which of the two would be more reliable for street driving and still have power to showoff instantly?

as of now im kind of leaning towards the b18a/b with turbo...
but then the b16a1 with jrsc sounds pretty good also...

does anyone out there have this kind of setup that can give me some pointers?

[Marc-OS]

B18 turbo, you can run more boost safely on a b18 than on a b16.

[civickiller]

idk if the ls is safer boost more than a b16, i think its pretty much the same. both motors are good to turbo or supercharge. both are good streetable engines. turbos are more high maintanence, jrscs arent high maintanenece, just bolt it up and go. it all depends on you and what you want, like a turbo is upgradable and can run more boost then a jrsc so it all depends on you and how much hp you want and how fast you wanna run

[91civicDXdude]

how is a turbo "high maintenance"?

Its not like you have to change your "turbo filter" every 3,000 miles or anything. boost is boost. 9psi pushing on your pistons with a turbo is the same as 9psi pushing on your pistons witha supercharger.

People seem to think that a supercharger is another bolt on part, when in reality, its exactly like a turbo. you should adjust your fuel management accordingly.

I guess in one aspect, a JRSC would be "easier" on the engine becuase stock it only boost 6psi, where as a turbo can be wastegated from any psi to any psi and of course if you could turn up your boost, you would

[90CRXZCSi]

B18 Boosted gets my vote. Lower Compression Ratio than the B16 and able to handle more boost. Turbos are free power. you get your power from unused exhaust fumes. The supercharger is belt driven and it takes power to make power.

[Jay eS Iye]

once ENDYN (Energy Dynamics) makes their superchargers available I'd say go that route. i think they go up to around 24psi or so, and they have everything else you could need on their site (www.endyn.com), i'm just waiting and waiting, and someday I can say "yeah, my d16 just beat your b-series..."

[CRXtc]

Originally Posted by Jay eS Iye

once ENDYN (Energy Dynamics) makes their superchargers available I'd say go that route. i think they go up to around 24psi or so, and they have everything else you could need on their site (www.endyn.com), i'm just waiting and waiting, and someday I can say "yeah, my d16 just beat your b-series..."

i dont think their supercharger will EVER be released, it has been in the works for YEARS

[CRXtc]

Originally Posted by 90CRXZCSi

B18 Boosted gets my vote. Lower Compression Ratio than the B16 and able to handle more boost. Turbos are free power. you get your power from unused exhaust fumes. The supercharger is belt driven and it takes power to make power.

when will people realize that lower compression does not mean more power with boost?

[CRXtc]

Originally Posted by civickiller

idk if the ls is safer boost more than a b16, i think its pretty much the same. both motors are good to turbo or supercharge. both are good streetable engines. turbos are more high maintanence, jrscs arent high maintanenece, just bolt it up and go. it all depends on you and what you want, like a turbo is upgradable and can run more boost then a jrsc so it all depends on you and how much hp you want and how fast you wanna run

you seem to forget that with a JSRC you need to change the belt every what 60k? there is NO maitnence with turbo, and NO a b16a with a supercharger vs. a b18a/b turbo would not be faster, also you had your HP figures wrong in your other post

90-91 b18a1 130hp
92-93 b18a1 140hp
94-01 b18b1 142hp (usdm)
94-01 b18b 145hp (jdm)

[90CRXZCSi]

well lets just say that lower compression helps with boost. So you are saying that someone with 12.5:1 compression would run the same time as a person with 8.7:1???

[CRXtc]

Originally Posted by 90CRXZCSi

well lets just say that lower compression helps with boost. So you are saying that someone with 12.5:1 compression would run the same time as a person with 8.7:1???

no but i would put money on it that the person with 12.5:1 compression and lower boost would SMOKE the car with 8.7:1 compression and high boost (Both with proper tuning), lower compression means you can run more boost, it doesnt mean you will make more power (then a HC/low boost setup)

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by CRXtc

no but i would put money on it that the person with 12.5:1 compression and lower boost would SMOKE the car with 8.7:1 compression and high boost (Both with proper tuning), lower compression means you can run more boost, it doesnt mean you will make more power (then a HC/low boost setup)

I totally agree! High compression turbo puts out more power to the ground! Just remmeber its all in the tuning and a/f.