i fell victim to the sleeper

[Nookie_Monster]

ok here is the deal i was driving to a 7-11 at around 12:30 at night and a Honda CRX rolls up on me and starts flashing his lights and all that jazz i'm always up for a good race so i yell to him "at the light hit it" we get to the light it's still green so we go from a roll and all i hear is the deafening roar of his ricer exaust but something is wrong he's pulling ahead.... then comes the explanation for this, "PSHHHHH" as he shifts gears. and he keeps pulling farther and farther away. when he is 4 or 5 car lengths ahead of me he turns on his hazards and slows down. so i get back up next to him and ask what hes got under the hood so he yells "pull over" (we have to scream back and forth to hear each other over his ricer exhaust)

turns out he swapped in a twin turbo B16 motor.

[carrrnuttt]

Originally Posted by Nookie_Monster

ok here is the deal i was driving to a 7-11 at around 12:30 at night and a Honda CRX rolls up on me and starts flashing his lights and all that jazz i'm always up for a good race so i yell to him "at the light hit it" we get to the light it's still green so we go from a roll and all i hear is the deafening roar of his ricer exaust but something is wrong he's pulling ahead.... then comes the explanation for this, "PSHHHHH" as he shifts gears. and he keeps pulling farther and farther away. when he is 4 or 5 car lengths ahead of me he turns on his hazards and slows down. so i get back up next to him and ask what hes got under the hood so he yells "pull over" (we have to scream back and forth to hear each other over his ricer exhaust)

turns out he swapped in a twin turbo B16 motor.

With all due respect:


Twin turbo B18?

[-The Stig-]

He said TT B16, you dip!


But I agree...

[fatninja19]

How come TT setups dont work so hot on 4bangers? Becuase the displacment is too small to push that much exhuast? ?? ?

[turbopaseo]

haha yeah bull shit.. you dont tt a 4 cyl.. its just unheard of.. if you do your wasting money.. haha nice try

[Layla's Keeper]

I'm with the other guys, TT belongs on engines with banks of cylinders. It could've just been one very big turbo, which would also explain a loud "pssh". TT setups tend to have quieter popping.

And yes, I do know that both Supras and Skylines use TT setups on their straight-sixes.

[Neutrino]

oh and another thing turbo cars don't have the same sound as the ricers' (can full of bees)......turbo cars even with small displacement will sound deep

[Nookie_Monster]

maybe your right that it would not be as effective on a 4 banger but i saw the turbos. i saw the b16 motor i know this is the setup he had. beleive it or not.

[carrrnuttt]

Originally Posted by Nookie_Monster

maybe your right that it would not be as effective on a 4 banger but i saw the turbos. i saw the b16 motor i know this is the setup he had. beleive it or not.

Nobody'll believe you until you find some way to post pics. I've been messing with Hondas since 1992, and have yet to see an actual, working TT set-up on a B motor. Prove me wrong. It's hard enough to fit one small turbo, even harder for a big turbo...but a small turbo AND a big turbo (which would be the only point of a TT system in that kind of motor)?

[fatninja19]

So will someone who knows explain the technicalities of why a TT set up doesnt work well with a small 4 cylinder??

[carrrnuttt]

Originally Posted by fatninja19

So will someone who knows explain the technicalities of why a TT set up doesnt work well with a small 4 cylinder??

There's two reasons why a car would want, or need, a TT set-up.

In the case of the Supra and the RX-7, they use a sequential system that uses a small turbo for low-end punch, since smaller turbos spool faster, and a big turbo for top-end pull and peak HP.

In the case of the 300ZXTT, it uses a parallel system. Being a V motor, two similar turbos are used to charge the two different banks of cylinders.

Now obviously, the parallel system would be of no use to an inline four. Boxer fours, like in the Subarus, might be able to use it, but I haven't seen one as far as I know. Porsche's flat-six (boxer) motors do use it.

As for the sequential system, although possible on an inline-four, it requires a convoluted manifold that'll have to fit two different sized turbos, and the routing system that injects the positive pressure into the manifold from each turbo as each one takes over in their respective RPM bands.

Inline-six motors are perfect for this system, as they are longer than even V8s, and usually sit in long engine bays with a lot of space. inline-fours, ESPECIALLY the Honda transverse-mounted motors, are not only too short, where the TT manifold assembly will be bigger than the motor is long, but there is usually no space for all that. If you've ever looked into one, there's barely space for a turbo, let alone two, with the sequential system I mentioned.

If somehow, by some engineering genius, you managed to get all this under the hood of your Honda, you would have spent waaay to much on this, where you might as well have done a supercharger system WITH a turbo, which then gives you the same effect, for probably cheaper.

[Ace$nyper]

hey i'll buy it that there is a TT b16 out there but you need to put up pics its on the street i could belive it if you saw it at a show cause thats all it be good for like TTT supra just to be cool no real gain at all.

[turbopaseo]

well to tt a 4 banger is pointless.. there is a shot here in phoenix that did it on a h22 and its not putting that many HP down.. more of a show car I guess..