tire dressings

[gmc]

I have heard that using products that contain silicone are bad for your tires. Overtime the silicone can break down the rubber on the sidewall. Is this true? I don't understand if silcone is bad for rubber how can companies like armor all, meguiars, and other companies make products that contain silicone? What do you people use for tires? I use 303 protectant, which doesn't contain silicone oils. It works pretty well. I use it for my tires, vinyl, and my leather. (they say it can be used on rubber, plastic, fiberglass, vinyl, and leather) Check out their website at 303products.com

[BullShifter]

Armor All is shit. Yes certain dressings can break down tires, this is why tire dressing should be used instead of vinyl dressing. Only leather care products should be used on leather or a damp chamois. I keep a few different kinds of dressing in-stock. I use an aerosol spray from 1st AYD for tire dressing, this stuff is amazing.

[galaxie500fb]

I never understood the need to use tire dressing. I mean why put all your effort into washing and waxing your exterior and the last thing you do is apply tire dressing which once you start rolling attracts all kinds of crap. Me personally. I just keep my tires clean. They`re not shiny and slimy but i don`t have the need to clean my polished aluminum mags every 24 hrs. jsut my opinion. I appreciate a truly clean vehicle as opposed to a juiced up vehicle.

[BullShifter]

10% of my clients request no tire shine, the rest all want it. Yes cheap ass tire dressing will sling on to the body & attract dirt/dust. The "good" tire dressing I use looks the same 3 weeks later as it did when it was applied.

I like shinny tires not shinny interior that looks cheap & fake.

[jon@af]

Originally Posted by galaxie500fb

I never understood the need to use tire dressing. I mean why put all your effort into washing and waxing your exterior and the last thing you do is apply tire dressing which once you start rolling attracts all kinds of crap. Me personally. I just keep my tires clean. They`re not shiny and slimy but i don`t have the need to clean my polished aluminum mags every 24 hrs. jsut my opinion. I appreciate a truly clean vehicle as opposed to a juiced up vehicle.

As jackasssi has already stated, using crappy tire dressing is usually what gets crap all over the car. Not only that, but there are also some people who think that spraying tire dressing from a spray bottle is fine, when in fact it drifts and gets all over the car. I generally use a tire applicator at work, which allows me to make sure I get all the areas of the tire. We also have aerosol dressing which says on the cannister that you spray directly to the tire. I figure if it doesnt say on the can that you can spray directly on the tire, you shouldnt but that's me. I myself love dressing, it makes my shitty car look somewhat nice.

[CARNIGG]

Originally Posted by ILike2DriveCars

As jackasssi has already stated, using crappy tire dressing is usually what gets crap all over the car. Not only that, but there are also some people who think that spraying tire dressing from a spray bottle is fine, when in fact it drifts and gets all over the car. I generally use a tire applicator at work, which allows me to make sure I get all the areas of the tire. We also have aerosol dressing which says on the cannister that you spray directly to the tire. I figure if it doesnt say on the can that you can spray directly on the tire, you shouldnt but that's me. I myself love dressing, it makes my shitty car look somewhat nice.

also....when you apply the dressing....go back over it with a rag to get an even coat and at the same time removes excess dressing...it works

[BullShifter]

Originally Posted by CARNIGG

also....when you apply the dressing....go back over it with a rag to get an even coat and at the same time removes excess dressing...it works

I use a tire dreesing applicator for that. Reason being one of our guys may not notice a towel has dressing on it, then try to clean windows or may use on paint 1 of the guys thought he had glass cleaner in his hand & sprayed all the side winodws on a Tahoe

[toucan]

Hello all you pros?
By what I've seen & heard all you pro detailers don't seem to understand the need to maintain tires, not dress them. Rubber is a Petro-chemical product, in other words a crude oil product. Over time they will dry & crack and eventually need to be replaced because of old age or wear. We need to treat them chemically over to extend their life as long as the tread remains. Utilizing a product that will hydrate the rubber and at the same time keep them clean. Also a product can be used to spray on and then lightly buff the surface if you prefer the shine or glossy look. Most of the products on todays market is just a cosmetic shine and does nothing for petro-chemical components and also gets slung onto the finish (crap). I will not name the products I utilize due to some of you so called pros stuck back in time with armor-all or silicone goo. (If you didn"t know silicone is a dirty word for painters)

[jon@af]

Originally Posted by toucan

Hello all you pros?
By what I've seen & heard all you pro detailers don't seem to understand the need to maintain tires, not dress them. Rubber is a Petro-chemical product, in other words a crude oil product. Over time they will dry & crack and eventually need to be replaced because of old age or wear. We need to treat them chemically over to extend their life as long as the tread remains. Utilizing a product that will hydrate the rubber and at the same time keep them clean. Also a product can be used to spray on and then lightly buff the surface if you prefer the shine or glossy look. Most of the products on todays market is just a cosmetic shine and does nothing for petro-chemical components and also gets slung onto the finish (crap). I will not name the products I utilize due to some of you so called pros stuck back in time with armor-all or silicone goo. (If you didn"t know silicone is a dirty word for painters)

You're assuming we didnt know this, however I dont think anyone said that tire dressing doesnt help the tires. But thank you for that condescending explanation.

[gmc]

toucan,
So, do you believe that products that contain silicone oils are bad for tires?

[toucan]

Originally Posted by gmc

toucan,
So, do you believe that products that contain silicone oils are bad for tires?

I don't know if silicone is bad for tires, we used to use a product that was like glue and must have been pure silicone, it worked very well, but as I stated before Silicone is the painters enemy due to the silicone causing the paint not to adhere to the finish, We had a lot of body shop clientele, so we steered clear of silicone. Rubber has to be hydrated and kept moist to keep from cracking and add life. You can go to my web sit www.galaxylane.org and check the tire treatment that can be used for Petro-chemical components, really good for under hood, and also for convert tops, the black trim that turns white from wax and many many other uses. This product is 100% guaranteed.

good luck

[toucan]

Originally Posted by ILike2DriveCars

You're assuming we didnt know this, however I dont think anyone said that tire dressing doesnt help the tires. But thank you for that condescending explanation.

Hello Jon,
I see over & over the same crappy products being used on tires, Black Magic, Armor-All, Etc and none of it helps tires or interiors or any other thing you choose to try it on, except for cosmetic purposes. I assume you guys don'y know what is good for the application and what is only cosmetic since most everyone uses the same old stuff. I don't push to use products that I represent, I push to use the products that will work for you guys so you don't have to go trial & error on products. When I first started in vehicle care I bought everything from soup to nuts and most of it didn't work. Use the wrong products on a $60,000 vette and you'll be buying a new paint job or interior. We once burned the paint job on a carrera and had to spend $400.00 on getting it fixed, so watch out you guys that are religious to that old milwaukee or makita.

Good Luck!

[jon@af]

Originally Posted by toucan

Hello Jon,
I see over & over the same crappy products being used on tires, Black Magic, Armor-All, Etc and none of it helps tires or interiors or any other thing you choose to try it on, except for cosmetic purposes. I assume you guys don'y know what is good for the application and what is only cosmetic since most everyone uses the same old stuff. I don't push to use products that I represent, I push to use the products that will work for you guys so you don't have to go trial & error on products. When I first started in vehicle care I bought everything from soup to nuts and most of it didn't work. Use the wrong products on a $60,000 vette and you'll be buying a new paint job or interior. We once burned the paint job on a carrera and had to spend $400.00 on getting it fixed, so watch out you guys that are religious to that old milwaukee or makita.

Good Luck!

I myself use Malco, which is not only cosmetic but helps preserve tire life by preventing dry-rot. Not everyone uses the same old shit, so please dont always assume that just because a certain product is being talked about that everyone uses a variation of the same thing such as armor-all or black magic. I work in detail at a car dealership and we only use malco or S & S, Im not sure if you have heard of these companies, but they both sell good products and are both strictly detail suppliers. We make sure that if any dressing or anything gets on the outside of the car it is immediately wiped off and cleaned. We dont use dressing on the interior because people more often than not dont want it. If they request it then we'll do it for them, but otherwise it doesnt happen. I apologize if you thought my last post was a bit off color, but it seemed as though you thought us a bit stupid by the way you explained everything.

[2003XJ]

I am currently using Armor All on my 2003 Liberty. It works very well to make a nice shine, but of course, the first rainstorm (usualy follows pretty close to when I wash it) and because of all the spray comming from the front tires, it takes all the Armor All right off the back tires. I have heard that Armor All is not good for the tires and now I am starting to believe it. I looked down at them earlier this morning and the rubber is starting to peel a little bit around the lettering "Goodyear Wrangler SR-A". My question is, what is the best tire dressing out there to use, how much does it cost, and can I pick it up at a local store?

[flsurf420]

Originally Posted by J_Swigz

I myself love dressing, it makes my shitty car look somewhat nice.

Exactly