The Enzo has some competition...

[midlifecrisisvette]

In a recent Motor Trend test of the Mosler MT900S, I found something very strange. The Mosler actually comes very close to the Enzo in all of the accleration tests. Now I ask you, if you could get the performance of a Ferrari Enzo for a quater of the price, not to mention much more fuel efficient, then what's all the hype about the Enzo for? (Please don't say 'Cause it's a Ferrari'). I mean, the MT900S is essentially a very, very lightweight mid-engine Corvette Z06 with an optional sequential manual transmission.

The Backup:

(Motor Trend, 9/03)

Mosler MT900S,

Price as tested: $160,000
Engine: 345.7 ci (5665 cc) OHV V8 2 valves/cylinder
Max Power: 435 HP @ 6000 RPM
Max Torque: 400 lb-ft @ 4800 RPM
0-60 mph: 3.5 secs
1/4 Mile: 11.54 secs @ 122.91 mph
Curb Weight: 2330 lbs
EPA mpg: 17 city/ 27 hwy

(Car & Driver, 7/03)

Ferrari Enzo

Price as tested: $659,430
Engine: 366 ci (5999 cc) DOHC V12 4 valves/cylinder
Max Power: 650 HP @ 7800 RPM
Max Torque: 485 lb-ft @ 5500 RPM
0-60 mph: 3.3 secs
1/4 Mile: 11.2 secs @ 136 mph
Curb Weight: 3262 lbs
EPA mpg: 8 city/ 12 hwy

[Pringles]

If the only thing I cared about was straight-line acceleration and nothing else then I would pause for a second and consider if I should buy the Mosler... then I would slap my face around and wonder what the hell I was thinking to even consider doing such a thing.

OHV V8... pah!

[YellowMaranello]

I love threads like this. Why buy a Ferrari when this car that's 10 times cheaper hits 60 in .123112423784236987123687234298340578172936 seconds less? I mean thats all there is to race cars. duhhhhh. All that turning and stuff they do is just another way to slow down so they can race to 60 again. duhhh

[Dynastar197]

Ouch..........................

[TexasF355F1]

Originally Posted by YellowMaranello

I love threads like this. Why buy a Ferrari when this car that's 10 times cheaper hits 60 in .123112423784236987123687234298340578172936 seconds less? I mean thats all there is to race cars. duhhhhh. All that turning and stuff they do is just another way to slow down so they can race to 60 again. duhhh

My......aren't we being sarcastic today The Mosler looks like a a full scale R/C car. Doesn't look like it would do well in a crash test.

[Ace$nyper]

1 rather the car sounds like a real super car not a rumble from a LS6 motor that if i want to hear i go to a strip. 2 rather have teh evil braking of teh enzo 3 Ezno happens to be a car that will gain value while i don't think the Mosler will 4 Teh Enzo would murder it on a road corse 5 Teh Enzo looks better. I think thats enough plus if you wanted faster 0-60 from teh Enzo you could have changed teh gearing.

[Pringles]

6. The Enzo has much better build quality for sure.

[TexasF355F1]

and don't forget the resale value of the Enzo

[Pringles]

Like you'd want to sell it...

[TexasF355F1]

Originally Posted by Pringles

Like you'd want to sell it...

I was speaking in general terms. I would never sell it, unless I had to. And if you had to, at least you konw you get more than what you paid for it.

[vectorclub]

Originally Posted by TexasF355F1

and don't forget the resale value of the Enzo

If the F40 and F50 are any indication, you will lose money on selling an Enzo unless you do it during this time of ultra hype. Once the hype dies down, the price will.

[vectorclub]

Originally Posted by YellowMaranello

I love threads like this. Why buy a Ferrari when this car that's 10 times cheaper hits 60 in .123112423784236987123687234298340578172936 seconds less? I mean thats all there is to race cars. duhhhhh. All that turning and stuff they do is just another way to slow down so they can race to 60 again. duhhh

The MT900 does well in the turns as well. It was 1 second behind a custom tuned twin turbo 996 on a road course. Yes, a road course, as in turns. The 996 is a great road racing car, so that means the Mosler is not just fast in straight line.

The Enzo is a more or less a street legal race car. Trying to trash the MT900 for being a race car for the streets, means the Enzo should be knocked down for just being a race car for the street.

I am fan of the Enzo, but there are high quality cars that cost less and give great performance. The Enzo does have better fit and finish then an MT900, but you pay for that. There is nothing wrong with being impressed by cars that can go almost as fast through the turns and/or down the straights for a lot less money. Both the Enzo and MT900 deserve respect.

[vectorclub]

Originally Posted by Pringles

If the only thing I cared about was straight-line acceleration and nothing else then I would pause for a second and consider if I should buy the Mosler... then I would slap my face around and wonder what the hell I was thinking to even consider doing such a thing.

OHV V8... pah!

The Mosler is fast in the turns as well.

Gee, what was that thing powering a the Ferrari F40, oh yeah, it was OHV V8. The F40 was one of the last cars to get Enzo's personal approval.

[vectorclub]

Originally Posted by Ace$nyper

1 rather the car sounds like a real super car not a rumble from a LS6 motor that if i want to hear i go to a strip. 2 rather have teh evil braking of teh enzo 3 Ezno happens to be a car that will gain value while i don't think the Mosler will 4 Teh Enzo would murder it on a road corse 5 Teh Enzo looks better. I think thats enough plus if you wanted faster 0-60 from teh Enzo you could have changed teh gearing.

I hope R&T or C&D do get an Enzo, MT900, S7, and other super cars together for a race at a road course like Laguna Seca. The Enzo will likely be faster, but not by much.

As far as sound, the Enzo sound is much better then the F355, but to say it is better then LS6, no, it is just different.

Looks, yes the Enzo does look better.

Brimbo brakes are found on both the MT900 and the Enzo.

Changing the gears on the Enzo, then you could change the gears on the MT900.

If the MT900 would have had a hire retail price, then the car may have been designed to go faster. The Enzo was designed as the money no object car and th MT900 was designed as ultra fast car for decent price (by exotic car standards).

[Pringles]

I'm pretty sure the F40's V8 was DOHC. It most definately was not OHV


Personally I dislike OHV engines but that's just me. I prefer high-tech, high-rpm, screaming DOHC and that is the main reason why I don't like this car. There's also build quality, which may or may not be good in this case but it is normal for kit cars like these to have poor build quality.


IMO there is no way someone would choose to buy an MT900 over an Enzo.