A question for the experts out there.

[AnsisK]

The last time I posted it was for a drawing (more of a sketch) for a concept that I came up with. This time, I am posting asking a question about a very difficult technique, that maybe even the pros haven't tried/mastered.

Okay. I am currently drawing a Lotus Elise. So far, it is far exceeding my previous work. I want to do everything possible not to screw it up. There are quite a few techniques that I will need to use in the wheels and lights. Here they are:

-Wheel not in motion, but smoke coming from underneath it, braking.
-Wheel (back one, the most dominant part of the pic) is in motion.
-Brake lights are on.

I know perfectly how to do the first challenge, and have done so very well in previous drawings. Just simply take an eraser and start erasing. The second one, I have pulled off, looking quite nice, but it isn't as big as the one I'm attempting now. How do I draw the back wheel so it looks like it is in motion? Brake lights are on, well that one is a given. Just draw the tails so they blend together nicely, very bright. Not very detailed with reflection like the ones that are off.

I really need help with these challenges, I hope someone can help me. I have put 8 hours intot his project so far, so I need the help or else. This forum is where I come to look for help with techniques like this, so please, help. Thanks.

For those who saw my last posting, don't worry. This drawing is far better and will not be acartoony like the other stuff I do. I will post the finnished product when I'm done next week.

[gnasha]

R u doing computer rendering or hand rendering?
If on computer just intensify the color of the ligh itself and had a glow around it (with a trail of light as the car seem to be in motion).
If it's hand, u could use dried chalk to obtain a glow around the brake light. Then smooth it in the direction of motion. The intensity of it will depend of the situation (day/night/rainny,...) and the view.
Collect load of picture of the same situation it will help to understand how it works.

[AnsisK]

It is in the rain, but I am not doing it with a backgron so it is hard to tell, other than by the shading. This is the Sketching and Drawing forum, so it's by hand on a piece of paper. the view is the tail of the car, using a bubble lens. The actual car is angled on the paper, so it is rather abstract to the standard drawing of a car. Elise 111S (S2), from behind, low. A bit of the side is visible.

[AnsisK]

Anyone else? I need the help on this one!

Anyone? Maybe I'll just Do a still... What a shame. It's all your faults! JK.

[asaenz]

Originally Posted by AnsisK

Anyone else? I need the help on this one!

Anyone? Maybe I'll just Do a still... What a shame. It's all your faults! JK.

AnsisK,

I would try using pastel and prisma marker. I think you are going to have to experiment.

Alfred

[AnsisK]

Okay, thanks. I'll see what I can do...

[gnasha]

Originally Posted by asaenz

AnsisK,

I would try using pastel and prisma marker. I think you are going to have to experiment.

Alfred

Agreed, bright red marker for the brake light itself and dried chalk for the glowing. Scrape the chalk over the light with a knife and then smooth it with ur finger or a piece of cotton. If u can, do some color photocopy and try try try if not just quickly redraw just the brake light area.

P.S. Alfred, is the proper name for "chalk", "pastel"? We using "pastel" in french but I didn't know it was the same in english.

Would anyone know a good and not to expensive scanner cause I really need to buy one?

[asaenz]

Originally Posted by gnasha

Agreed, bright red marker for the brake light itself and dried chalk for the glowing. Scrape the chalk over the light with a knife and then smooth it with ur finger or a piece of cotton. If u can, do some color photocopy and try try try if not just quickly redraw just the brake light area.

P.S. Alfred, is the proper name for "chalk", "pastel"? We using "pastel" in french but I didn't know it was the same in english.

Would anyone know a good and not to expensive scanner cause I really need to buy one?

Gnasha, great idea!!!!
I wasn't sure how to do that. I am glad you said something.

I think some times people say chalk in reference to soft/hard pastels. I have read both terms used interchangeably.

Just in case anyone wants to know the difference between soft, hard, and oil pastels, check this out.
http://www.dickblick.com/categories/pastels/
(scroll to the bottom)

Alfred

[gnasha]

I forgot to add that if u use dried pastel, and once ur drawing is finished and ur happy with it, you'll have to "fix" it otherwise the pastel will wear off in time. You can find fixing spray in artshop but the best and cheaper solution is to use hair spray. Do some try on white sheet of paper as some of them could put a shade on the drawing.

[farbod]

sorry but a can you add a pucture to your message you used to be able to but know i cant sorry to bother you but can you please help me

[gnasha]

Another way to do the light effect will be to use airbrush, but I do not have knowledge in this technique. It also quite expensive unless ur thinking using it a lot.

[AnsisK]

Uhh, I'm doing it with pencil only, not coloured. Thanks for the heplp though. I will have the picture up when I get around to finding it/scanning it etc. Thanks a lot everyone...

[gnasha]

Ok then.
If it's black and white, you'll have to get the brake light itself in really light gray, then fading it toward black/color of the sourouding to obtain the light effect.
If it's colored, bright red in the brake light, then use it other the body color. Strong red shade near the light going lighter and lighter as you getting futher away.

[gnasha]

Ok I really need to buy new glasses as I haven't seen you specified not coloured. It would be ok if it wasn't the first time but... Anyway it will be the first technique then and good luck.