why is the r35 gtr concept so nasty

[omegasky]

hmm, i'm sure everyone and i mean EVERYONE who's seen the concept pic's have said it's the nastiest thing that nissan could possibly do, some say they've gone wrong, some say they are going past borderline in technolgy, well everything you say negative about nissan is entirely false, me being the "NEED TO GET THE STRAIGHT FACT'S" type of guy am alway's up to pace, i try to find all the info first, that's what i'm about, anyway's when i first came on this board i forgot about saying the fact's about the r35 and i know that i'm probably the only one that know's why the r35 pic's which were supplied by nissan in 2001 where so ugly well.... let me start you of, in 2000 nissan wasn't really doing good as they should be as you might know, so nissan partnered with renault soon after, they had heated conflict's but renault had the money to put nissan back into a stable postion in the automtive world, nissan had a really BIG debt, billion's of $, about 16 billion if im correct, anyway's nissan had no choice lol, and renault basically took over of nissan, they owned a really big part of it, anyway's fast forward, so time came around when nissan would showcase the nissan concept, ideally they wanted it to be similar to the other previous model's but renault stepped in and said "hey we work together remember", so renault being Nissan's new controller, and being the leader in the sports car market in the French world basicaly took over of the design of the concept. And three years away from launch for the real production r35 gtr, Nissan and Renault were considering their options at the Tokyo Motor Show when they first showed it off.renault used they're creativity (french creativity) to design the r35 gtr concept lol, after all they did own nissan so it was their choice on how they wanted to make it, fast forward even more, i'm worried myself that the r35 might have this "french style" to it which is totally the opposite of japanese heaveness, anyway's i am just telling you that if renault dedices to make it a 200hp v10 4000 pound car(unreal) then they will make it, even though the concept got negative feedback and nissan told renault "i told you so, you should let me take over" it's technically still renault's choice lol, and they are still pressing on for the r35 gtr, worry guy's, be very afraid of what may come, treasure the previous gtr's as they may be the last "real skylines well have"!!!!!
im probably the only one to ever write this stuff, if i had webspace,lol.

[rsxer45]

so renault being Nissan's new controller, and being the leader in the sports car market in the French world basicaly took over of the design of the concept.

Where is you proof of this statement? I thought Mr. Tamura and his team of Nissan engineers had control over the next GT-R....And from what I heard, Mr. Tamura is quite a stickler about how he wants things done.

Just because Renault owns something like 44% (not sure of this %) of Nissan doesn't mean that Renault is involved in the design of the next GT-R. And besides Renault's goal in the partnership with Nissan was not to take it over, but rather to work together. Here are some quotes from Renault's website: "[the goals of the Renault-Nissan Alliance were to] reinforce the mutual interests of both partners.... [and] maintain the separate identities and independence of the two groups, which will continue to be responsible for their own operating activities."

http://www.renault.com/gb/groupe/alliances_p1.htm

Sure, there has been some technology swapping between Nissan and Renault as well some styling advice given by Renault...But how can you be so bold as to say that Renault completely took over the design of the next gt-r. Can you think of another Nissan car which Renault has completely taken over the design of?

the r35 might have this "french style" to it which is totally the opposite of japanese heaveness

What does that mean?

nissan told renault "i told you so, you should let me take over"

Was that a direct quote from Nissan?

im probably the only one to ever write this stuff

No, I have seen a few others post bullsh*t as well. Basically, what I'm telling you is that you NEED TO GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT. Without Renault's aid, there would probably be no new GT-R at all.

[omegasky]

thank's for the reply, you want proof eh, well straight from nissan japan:
http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/HOME...-CH120,00.html
straight from import racer!
http://www.importracer.com.ar/nissan_r35.htm
not a straight quote rsx, i cleaned it up a bit, press realese was explicit,lol.

[omegasky]

Originally Posted by rsxer45

Without Renault's aid, there would probably be no new GT-R at all.

might i add that i don't have anything against the french, really!!
yes your statememnt is very true, i specifically said that renault was making the decision's lol, it's sad that renault is involved.