n00b needs help here...

[y2knowledge]

Hey there folks! Just wanted to say howdy to all the other accord owners out there! I'm currently seeking help for my 93 Accord Ex Coupe. Lately I've not been able to find ANY Carbon Fiber Altezza style tail lights for my ride. DO manufacturers only make lights for the sedan??? WTF??? Also, does anyone know when Angel Halo projector lamps will, if ever, be made for the 93 series Accord? I also have another question concerning engine swappage . I'm a n00b bigtime when it comes to this so any and all help would be appreciated. I currently have the stock engine (F22) in it with almost 200K miles on it. I've seen a lot of people here talking about H22 and the H22A engine swaps. Which is the better choice and about how much am I looking at to get the whole swap done? I know I'm asking a lot but any help would be great. Thanks for looking!...

[00accord44]

Wudup



I dont think Ive ever seen 4th gen coupe cf altezzas b4. Look on ebay. They got everything. Same for your Halos. Thats where I got mine. As for the swap, when people say H22, they usually mean H22A. Same difference. It comes out of 91+ (92+? ) Preludes. Its the most reasonable swap to do for an Accord because of the relative ease in installation and power benefits involved.

Right now, I'm trying to decide between saving up for a H22 swap or getting bolt ons now and a turbo a lil later for my F23. If I get the boltons now, they'd be wasted if I swap for H22 later. But if I sit tight and be slow for a while (like almost 2 years) with my F23, then I can swap for H22, start with boltons and turbo or SC that and it would rape a F23 with boltons+turbo!!! (in theory)

[y2knowledge]

Hey, thanks for the welcome!

Anyhow, I've scoured Ebay for Carbon tezzas but with no luck for the coupe :-(. As for the Halo's for the 93 coupe I can't find them on Ebay either. If you know another place where I can get em, at least to see for myself that they really do exsist that would be great!

As for the swap, I think I might do it whenever I got some free loot around. Right now all I have is a no-name intake, R-Active plug wires, R-Active Intake, Bosch Platinum 4 plugs, no-name Performance Catalytic Converter, and a Top Speed exhaust. Everything is in working order except for the fact that I bottomed out ugly and one of my header pipes is dented, not too bad, but I know it's there. So my question is, would it be practical for me just to keep building off of what I've already done or should I just keep it as is until I can go for a full swappage? Oh, and about how much at or around does an average GOOD swap run? Meaning, how much is too much for me to pay? Like you I can either wait or just go with adding stuff to my current engine. Help!!! Thanks again for the reply!...

[Plastic_Fork]

Heya,

Just a curious question since I'm not as familiar with it:

Are the taillights for the 4th gen coupe different from the 4-door? They aren't for the 3rd gen Accords (except for the hatchback) and the 4th gen Accords are very similar. Honda didn't really change the rear design of the coupe until the 6th gen I believe.

I found this though. It's for the 4-door, but if the lights are the same then I would think it'd work just fine:

http://www.customautotrim.com/tail-l...ghts-92-93.htm

[93accordEX]

nope, 92-93 coupe and sedan tail lights differ. there are no coupe tail lights. umm about halo projector lamps not sure if they will be made, but if they are I can assure you the light output will be horrible and you will go back to stock if you want to actually see at night. h22 = h22a. there is no block with the code h22 people just leave off the a when talking about it. all jdm engines will be h22a no numbers after (except h22a7) and the usdm are h22a1, and 4. then theres also some other variations in different countries such as h22a2 and h22z (possibly an oem block from honda just stamped that so you know its a replacement, never really did figure that one out)

[y2knowledge]

Originally posted by Plastic_Fork
Heya,

Just a curious question since I'm not as familiar with it:

Are the taillights for the 4th gen coupe different from the 4-door? They aren't for the 3rd gen Accords (except for the hatchback) and the 4th gen Accords are very similar. Honda didn't really change the rear design of the coupe until the 6th gen I believe.

I found this though. It's for the 4-door, but if the lights are the same then I would think it'd work just fine:

http://www.customautotrim.com/tail-l...ghts-92-93.htm

The tail lights are indeed different. For one, the inner assembly is completely flat with the key hole on the upper corner, whereas the coupes inner assembly has a contour and the keyhole is located in the completely opposite corner. Unless I completely modify my trunk those inner assemblies aren't going to fit. I did manage to buy some vinyl and covered the inside assembly. It looks pretty nice IMO.

Originally posted by 93accordEX
nope, 92-93 coupe and sedan tail lights differ. there are no coupe tail lights. umm about halo projector lamps not sure if they will be made, but if they are I can assure you the light output will be horrible and you will go back to stock if you want to actually see at night. h22 = h22a. there is no block with the code h22 people just leave off the a when talking about it. all jdm engines will be h22a no numbers after (except h22a7) and the usdm are h22a1, and 4. then theres also some other variations in different countries such as h22a2 and h22z (possibly an oem block from honda just stamped that so you know its a replacement, never really did figure that one out)

Light output ill be horrible??? NOOOOOOO!!! What about regular projector lamps? Is it worth me spending $$$ on getting them? I thought projectors were supposed to be the shizzle? If my light output is going to suck then I'm not going to bother. If anyone has any projectors on their ride please let me know the pro's and con's! Thanks!...

[00accord44]

PROJECTORS SUCK!!!!!

Let me clarify this statement. IMO, projectors are cosmeticly beautiful (some of them) but light output is

I just installed my halo projectors about three weeks ago and am very frustrated with my decision. Its a combination of the plates inside the projector housing and the tiny H1 bulbs you gotta use in em that makes it so bad. H1 bulbs are already undersized, then the beam is aimed down and restricted in the housing. I have some 4000K PIAA bulbs in mine and still am VERY displeased with output and light distribution on the road. It has pushed me into stretching my pockets to get a HID kit (which are illegal to buy in stores now) The halo part of the projector is irrelevant, thats just for looks.

Ask anybody with projectors and they will say the same.

[y2knowledge]

Originally posted by 00accord44
PROJECTORS SUCK!!!!!

Let me clarify this statement. IMO, projectors are cosmeticly beautiful (some of them) but light output is .

Dammit, I knew there was some catch! I heard about HID being illegal to buy unless it's stock in your vehicle already, which sucks for me. Halo's I can live without, but the projectors are what I wanted (Black to compliment my tail lights, side markers, and bumper signals). I guess that's why I saw some peeps talking about lighting and stuff on this site now, makes sense. So with Projecotrs it's a lose lose situation unless I want to be driving blind at night. Would adding floodlights help any or should I just save my money?...

[00accord44]

If floodlight is another term for foglights, it all depends. Most foglights Ive seen only illuminate th ground immediately in front of the car. Which is why they're good for instances where short range visibility is down, such as fog. The projectors catch the ground right in front of you, its farther out thats still dark. I guess if the foglights were stronger than the projectors, it would help some, but still not nearly as good as stock visibility. I suppose light distribution would at least be even though. its up to you. If you got $400 to pay for projectors+fogs then more power to you, but I suggest using $400 for an HID kit instead. By December, I should have my HID kit installed instead of these DAMN H1s

If you want to compliment your tails (I assume you have cf altezzas or something) get the black housing OEM style lights. I believe you said you have a 93 Accord and I think they are available. Then get a 9006 HID conversion kit. It will cost a lil more depending on how cheap you find the blk housing OEMs, but visibility will be 3000 times better.

[y2knowledge]

Floodlight = Foglight, I messed that one up, lol. Anyways, OEM black housing headlamps! I can live with that! I have OEM black housing corner signals and they look nice, except for my stock a$$ crystal lamps. But yeah, I have clear black Altezzas in the back as well as all around (black). If what you say is true then I'm gong to scrap the whole Projector thing because I don't want to have to fork out hundreds for a HID kit when I can pay a fraction for the OEM black housing lights. But yeah, I have a 93 Accord coupe. If you can direct me to where they might have these black housing OEM lamps that would be awesome! I've already looked on Ebay to no avail. Thanks!

P.S. Something like this would be nice, but it's not for my year car!

[00accord44]

Uh oh. I cant find any non projector black housing for your year Accord. I can find black corner lenses, but not the headlight assembly. I tried a yahoo search for "black housing oem accord 93" and didnt find anything both black AND oem style. I dunno. You can try to hunt, maybe call a few local shops to see if they know anything.

[y2knowledge]

Yeah, I tried to Yahoo it too but with no luck. Have you ever seen any OEM or non OEM black housing non-projector headlights? I just want to know if these babies even exsist or if I'm just going to have to find a way to mod in the 94 year lights onto my car...

[00accord44]

I personally haven't seen them that I can remember. Looks like you'll have to try the 94 lights. Unless you wanna experiment with opening up your current housing and creating a black out effect. Ive never done anything like it, but it seems like you might be able to buy some sort of tinting filf, sorta like the stuff you can get for "do-it-yourself" window tinting. I dont know if there is anything like that that is heat resistant. If you pryed open the housing (SLOWLY, GENTLY, AND EVENLY!!!) you should be able to apply the film, then seal the housing back with silicone gel. I dunno if you wanna do experiments though without a backup. Just a thought.

[y2knowledge]

Yeah, I may do that or head to the junk yard and see how the 94 lights fit, if at all on my ride. If all else fails then I might just have to get projectors. I just hope projectors aren't a pain in the ass with all the lighting problems you yourself say your having...

[00accord44]

If you go to the junkyard, you might as well try and scoop a OEM HID kit from and Audi or Bimmer so you could retrofit it to your ride with or without projectors. (an idea from mr_mbuna)