Sweet Civic ??

[Trogdor]

aight guys, im starting to wonder about alot of things about my car (99 civic coupe ex) and speed is one of the largest concerns! (ive got a modded Z-28, TA, and corvette to keep up with soo.. im trailin behind with the guys!) i was wonderin about how much $$ am i looking at, towards having me a sweet civic that has all the style that civics were made for, and the speed to make sure i can keep up with my bro's! also she needs to be a rather reliable car since i'd be using her for everday driving. does any one have any idea how much cash im looking at??? or any ideas to help me to that end goal?? im looking in the turbo market as it is. and im also thinkin mabey i might have to switch rides to do that^. currently on my civic i have a full cat, CAI,w bypass, and a K&N. then course i have a nice system, and full ground effects. so any thoughts, knowledge or even hairbrained schemes or idea's would be apreciated!

[91civicDXdude]

okay first off, adding a "system" and "ground effects" will do nothing but make your car slower. and secondly, adding simple bolt ons wont make your 99 tank of a civic even keep up with any of those cars.

you should stick with rice. get an even bigger body kit, maybe some 19" wheels. then you could tint it out with 0% tint, get some yellow interior, then maybe put some NOS stickers on it so it looks fast.

[Trogdor]

lol aight dude! first off, i know that the effects and the system wont make my car faster in the slightest, but looks and sound is currently my only bragging feature! and my bolt ons while they wont allow me to keep up with the others, they do make it somewhat faster! the rice idea....its ill !!! just sick man!!!! lol although i must say amusing. but towards the market of turbos... any misconstrued thoughts about that ?? or anything else that may pertain to this issue, it'd all be welcome ! thanx again

[mjshort18]

ok, if you want to make your car fast what you need is a ported intake and throttle body, a racing pulley, a lightened fly wheel, a six puck clutch, a ported and polished head, and higher compression pistons. you can get all of these at dh-racing.com and it will cost you between 1500-2000 to get all of these things, but your car will run between 13-14 second 1/4 mile times if you don't do the pistons. if you do the pistons then you will be looking at a little faster time. also you should get some nice rims to add to the look if you haven't already.

[edman24]

hey mj you must be dreaming if you think those mods will get him into the 14's. for that ex you would need a lot more then that to hit 14's. personally the best, cheapest, and fastest for the money engine swap is a b18b swap with a turbo kit. you could do all of that for about 4 grand depending on your hookups and who does your work. and as stated before your big wheels, heavy sound system, and body kit only slow you down. but with an ls turbo you should hit 13's.

[mjshort18]

where do you think those mods would put a stock ex at, if that wouldn't put it in 14's.

[moleodonuts]

depending on $$$ get a swap... I'm not sure why this hasn't come up yet, but its the only way to get your car movin.



The cheapest way to get your car haulin is to get a b18b swap (Can you do that on a 99? if not somebody tell me and I'll delete this post lol b.c the rest of it is worthless), sleeve it, get a turbo kit, and run as much boost as you feel safe with.

I know a girl who has a 92 hatch; she did that, got a hondata, dyno tuned it and put in a stage 4 clutch and ran an 11.68 with Si wheels and full interior. Of course she had some really good engine tuning behind that b.c it was tuned by some guys who do work on formula racing cars, but you get the idea.

I just got quoted $1500 for the swap, prolly put $1000 into nice C/H/I, 2 or 3 thousand for the turbo, $350 for a clutch ($150 for flywheel ?)... the list goes on, but remember that you're going to be cruisin as soon as you put that integra engine in and you can get that turbo in and run like 7 or 8 psi of boost stock, keeping you up there iwth the other cars.

Also you could get a GSR or Type R engine and do the same general thing, just each stage will be more expensive.

[Thepeug]

I just got quoted $1500 for the swap, prolly put $1000 into nice C/H/I, 2 or 3 thousand for the turbo, $350 for a clutch ($150 for flywheel ?)... the list goes on, but remember that you're going to be cruisin as soon as you put that integra engine in and you can get that turbo in and run like 7 or 8 psi of boost stock, keeping you up there iwth the other cars. [/b][/quote]

Turbos are more than 2 or 3 grand. A basic turbo kit, with everything included for install and operation, would be about $3500.00.

[edman24]

hey mole did you happen to read any of the posts before yours? you said the exact same thing i said. also turbo setups should not cost more then 3 grand. if you choose to waste money on a ready made kit then that is your choice. a custom turbo kit can be done for close to 2 grand and work just as well if you know what you are doing.

and mj those mods would pput him in the 15's. a stock ex can run what, 16's? i say with the mods you listed he would only get into the 15's. prove me wrong and show me timeslips if you can. but i doubt it

[Options]

I cannot begin to experss the overwhelming sespool of emotions that are welling up inside of me. The general stupidity of the comments you people are making with the exception of 91civicdxdude are damaging to my existince. First off, what happened to the general rule of "tuning" your vehicle. Getting the most out of your motor with the least ammount of money spent. I thought that's what this whole hobby was based on, hence tuning... Now days everyone is all swap swap swap, what's most pitiful about that is with $500 put into my stock motor I will beat any swap out there. Send his cam out to get a regrind, put some pm6 pistons in there, an ex head gasket, knife edging the crank, and some home brew p&p, that will get him into the 14.5's if he drops some weight. Provided, he advances his timing and runs some racing fuel.
To all of you who suggested a turbo costs from 1500 to 3500 is outragous. I'm suprised you all didn't pay over 20grand for your car. If you want a cheap turbo setup that will equal the preformance of a garret turbo go to homemadeturbo.com and talk to people who know what they are talking about.
And finally, those of you who obviously don't know what they're talking about, keep your mouth shut and leave building motors for those of us who actually know what they're doing. Perhaps you should concentrate more on what type of wing you're going to put on your piece of rice.

[Swonder67]

you wanna keep up with a modded Z28, Trans Am and a Corvette??????


I suggest selling the civic and buying a modded Z28, Trans Am or a Corvette... haha

[Miataracer]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who ocasionally gets a little fired up...

[Ricochet]

Originally posted by mjshort18
ok, if you want to make your car fast what you need is a ported intake and throttle body, a racing pulley, a lightened fly wheel, a six puck clutch, a ported and polished head, and higher compression pistons. you can get all of these at dh-racing.com and it will cost you between 1500-2000 to get all of these things, but your car will run between 13-14 second 1/4 mile times if you don't do the pistons. if you do the pistons then you will be looking at a little faster time. also you should get some nice rims to add to the look if you haven't already.

Please end your moronic existance with a stun gun to your crotch.

To make an EX faster, and I'm assuming you don't have any hookups or Honda knowledge, you could buy a Greddy turbo kit for $1600. You'll need an intercooler, fuel injectors/pump/modulator, oil catch can, Hondata, and depending how much money you have to spend the list could go on forever. Take that to a shop to get it dynotuned, and you'll run mid-low 14's. Strip your interior to shave off as much weight as possible, get some 15" lightweight rims, and you could maybe hit 14 flat.

There's always the possibility of shooting nitrous on top of that too, which will dart you down the track in about 13.5-14.0... I just all depends on how much money you have, and how tuned the car is.

[edman24]

Options i think youre the moron here. this guy wants to keep up with modded z28's and trans am's. you think his car with body kit and system could hit a 14.5 with a high compression ex motor? you have got to be kidding me. i like tuning but i believe in starting with a strong base as well. he needs to hit 13's to keep up with those other cars and an NA ex motor would never do that with his exterior mods. turbocharging the ex would be good too but it would never equal an ls turbo. i dont think there is anything wrong with engine swaps. that is still considered tuning no matter what you say. oh and put 500 bucks into your engine and you could beat the rest of us? id love to see you try. when you get that 500 bucks bring your pos along and try and beat my swap. ill start in second and still kill you.

you must be one of those people who buys a stock ass civic, throws on an intake and exhaust and think they can smoke everyone because the ads say you get 30hp from their new tech exhaust.

dont come on here talkin shit about others when you have nothing to show for it. and while 91civic did make a valid point that didnt exactly help the guy or answer his question.

[Swonder67]

Originally posted by Options
I cannot begin to experss the overwhelming sespool of emotions that are welling up inside of me. The general stupidity of the comments you people are making with the exception of 91civicdxdude are damaging to my existince. First off, what happened to the general rule of "tuning" your vehicle. Getting the most out of your motor with the least ammount of money spent. I thought that's what this whole hobby was based on, hence tuning... Now days everyone is all swap swap swap, what's most pitiful about that is with $500 put into my stock motor I will beat any swap out there. Send his cam out to get a regrind, put some pm6 pistons in there, an ex head gasket, knife edging the crank, and some home brew p&p, that will get him into the 14.5's if he drops some weight. Provided, he advances his timing and runs some racing fuel.
To all of you who suggested a turbo costs from 1500 to 3500 is outragous. I'm suprised you all didn't pay over 20grand for your car. If you want a cheap turbo setup that will equal the preformance of a garret turbo go to homemadeturbo.com and talk to people who know what they are talking about.
And finally, those of you who obviously don't know what they're talking about, keep your mouth shut and leave building motors for those of us who actually know what they're doing. Perhaps you should concentrate more on what type of wing you're going to put on your piece of rice.

Hey dude, you're missing some hub caps....