naturally aspirated and its potential

[revum131]

sup guys...juss wondering if u could give me some advice. im soon to be getting a 95+ 240sx. i think i want to go a differnt route than the ka24de(t) or the sr20det swap. im thinking of goin naturally aspirated. so heres the thing i was wondering if there were any makers of a quad throttle body for the ka24de. i've been searching all night and i can't find any. also i would probably get high compression pistons, new rods, cam, rebuild my engine, ect. how much hp gains do u think i can get goin NA? also is turbo a cheaper and easier alternative? wat eles will i need to know about NA engines? Is there an other major NA engine component other then individual throttle bodies and high compression pistons?

thanks for ur help

[turbo2nr]

if yopu wnat over 300hp go turbo if you want less then 300 go n\a

i prefer turbo..

but thats just me

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[barrigaS14]

you WILL be spending alot of money on this. the n/a route is hard as hell. a guy in my club is going this way and has dropped about 5g's into his car and he says he is only making about as much as a stock SR. maybe a little more but not much. he also said he should have done the swap.

[mynismo]

ive spent 3500 and im running a flat 15.0, but mine's an auto

im thinking if its a stick i'd be running around 14.0. it's a lot cheaper than popping in an sr.

[nightwalker]

3500? an SR swap is the same price! ...and twice as fast

[mynismo]

Originally posted by nightwalker
3500? an SR swap is the same price! ...and twice as fast

twice as fast as 14.0?? hehe sorry to say, you know absolutely nothing

an sr runs 14.5 with a real good driver.

[nightwalker]

sorry, you must be a really sorry driver or hang out with really sorry drivers. 5 friends. all SRs. two ran a best of 13.8. the other three run 14.2. Last time I was at CMI, a kid in a stock s13 SR also ran a 13.8 Done three SR swaps. All cars smoke GT stangs and Z28 camaros

[Soyo]

ok I'm looking for an estimated(or exact if possible) time for each of these set ups

KA24DE: add turbo, non-intercooled, manifold, ehaust, downpipe, intake

KA24DE: the above + intercooler and pipingg, BOV, wastegate, exhaust flange

SR20DET: exhaust, intake, downpipe, BOV

KA24DE: non-turbo, port and polish, pistons, cams, rods, exhaust, intake, downpipe

say they all have light weight flywheel with like a stage 2 clutch kit and a B&m short shifter and light weight tires and performance tires and abotu 1 1/2 drop with decent suspension(hopefully this gets rid of some variables)

also what about the 2 kits for the KA24DE they have here http://www.realnissan.com/faq.asp

[mynismo]

Originally posted by nightwalker
sorry, you must be a really sorry driver or hang out with really sorry drivers. 5 friends. all SRs. two ran a best of 13.8. the other three run 14.2. Last time I was at CMI, a kid in a stock s13 SR also ran a 13.8 Done three SR swaps. All cars smoke GT stangs and Z28 camaros

what are you talking about

http://www.mrccfl.com/quartermile.html

2690 lbs

205hp (and that's a HIGH estimate.. most sr's have 190hp because of age and use)


also a pro stock driver took out a stock sr and ran a 14.5. i really don't know why you are making this up...... your friends must have short shifters and lightened flywheels. they are NOT stock

[nightwalker]

ok, more details ...when doing the swap, don't just take it and put it in. Obviously check for a motor that has good compression. If not, make it so. Clean clean clean. check all, or change if budget allows, vacuum lines. make sure no leak in pipes, and around stock intercooler. if everything is working right. e.g. clutch not fried, bad turbo, etc. 13.8 is attainable. 14.0-14.2 is more likely. I am telling you from experience. We tested at Sacramento raceway, so our elevations may be different from yours. Also, for the previous question, an SR swap shouldn't take more than three days. Two if you don't have to take the SR out of a clip. Easy swap. KA24de(t), I can't say, because I have not done any. My friends integra, which in my opinion is harder to work on, took only one day to put on his drag turbo kit. But depending on level of knowledge and experience, this obviously will vary (sometimes greatly!)

[Frostbyte]

Originally posted by nightwalker
3500? an SR swap is the same price! ...and twice as fast

Actually Sr20 swaps are only 2500 bucks and 3000 for the front clips so that leaves 1000 or 500 in mods which would easly take out his N/A Single Cam.

[Frostbyte]

Originally posted by mynismo
ive spent 3500 and im running a flat 15.0, but mine's an auto

im thinking if its a stick i'd be running around 14.0. it's a lot cheaper than popping in an sr.

Also you are not going to shave off a second in the 1/4 mile time just because it is a manual maybe .4 seconds.

[mynismo]

Originally posted by Frostbyte


Also you are not going to shave off a second in the 1/4 mile time just because it is a manual maybe .4 seconds.

interesting you say that

everyone is telling me a stick is the ULMIGHTY GOD of the racing world. .4 sec aint that much.... i thought it was .4 too but a lot of people tell me it took off a full sec

[Towlie]

LMAO 3500 to run 15

hehehe


if i spent 3500 i better be in the 13's

I ran 15.7 with a crappy exhuast, faulty clutch that was going out and bald tires


I figure put some low pros on it, the clutch was just changed

get the cold air intake, better exhuast, some headers, ported and polished i can get done for 200 on the head, or sometimes I see head withs high compression pistons for like 100-200 on ebay sometimes, and that leaves u wti a lot of money for misc mods wherever the fuk u want, u could even get some spray with that LMAO!

The only reason I would do an sr20det swap is because i have 150k miles

but even than, if im gonna spend that much money on a swap, ima just save up and do a 350chevy swap :-D VRRRROOOOOOOOOOM!

[SR20DETpower]

350 in a 240sx........

hmmmm how about an old 327 or z28 302, that would be badass if you had to have a CSB. Getting a northstart to work would be badass, 300hp and that thing likes to rev, one of the best v8's I've abused.

if your gonna do something different, do something different...

so sick of hearing about 350's.... it isn't the end all engine and a 327 or a 302 will whip its ass and is a better engine for a road course.