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Old 07-13-2003, 03:10 PM
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Unhappy odd starting problem

my civic is having trouble starting, the self diagnostics says its the fuel injectors, but they are fine, if it doesnt start i can wait a few minutes and try again and it fires right up, i dunno what is wrong with it cause it starts when it wants to. if anyone has any ideas it would help?
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Old 07-13-2003, 03:14 PM
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what exactly does it do when it wont start? Is it just dead do u get your instrument lights? does it just click? does it turn over?
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Old 07-13-2003, 03:16 PM
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does it start when its cold and hasn't been run for a while, but then wont start when its warmed up and you try and restart it?
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Old 07-13-2003, 03:21 PM
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it cranks over and all the instrument lights turn on, but it doesnt fire for some reason the fuel wont go to the spark plugs cause ther not wet or anything when it dont start but it will start when it wants to, usaully starts in the cold and sometimes it dont
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Old 07-13-2003, 03:24 PM
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It sounds like its either a cloged fuel filter or the fuel pump
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Old 07-13-2003, 03:28 PM
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the fuel filter is fine and fuel pump runs when u turn the ignitoin i think its one of the censors that control the injectors but dont no wich one, it could be the throttle position censor but they cant be replaced, and you cant buy em anywhere
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Old 07-13-2003, 05:02 PM
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whens the last time you did a basic tune up?
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Old 07-13-2003, 06:38 PM
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My civic would occasionaly have a hard time starting if the first turn of the key failed. On succesive start attempts, the engine would crank its heart away but not start- there was no combustion at all, but a very strong turn over. This was very rare, and occured only a few times over 2 years. In its final few months, it became much worse, especially as it began to occur on my FIRST start attempt.

I suspected my fuel pump, and as per the maual, removed the fuel tank to test my pump directly, which was a ok. Fuck you Honda. It was just my relay. Lots of wasted effort.

What I realised about the relay is that sometimes one of the switches inside it wouldn't click, leaving the fuel pump without electricity.

Here's a link.
http://www.suntimes.com/output/ebert...-later27f.html

And another link that might help you. It has more info, as well as a how to for Main Relay replacement.
http://www.fourthgenhatch.com/index2.html
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Old 07-13-2003, 06:56 PM
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my crx had the same problem. it would turn over but wouldn't start sometimes. i put a new igniter in and solved the problem.
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Old 07-13-2003, 10:58 PM
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maybe its the main relay cause i just read on 4th gen hatchbak that they dont werk good in warm temp and i havent had the problem until it got really warm out, and it werked all winter
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Old 07-13-2003, 11:49 PM
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most likely the relay... on most hondas between 88 - 91 or so this is a common problem... i've had the problem in my car when i got it, my ex girl's 3G accord had it, my mom's 90 accord had it...
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Old 07-14-2003, 10:23 PM
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i tested the relay when it got warm and didnt werk so i ordered a new one

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Old 07-14-2003, 10:48 PM
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Ya, i have to agree, i think it is the main relay. My friend had the same problem with his CRX. He had to turn the key on until the oil light went off, then he would crank it over, and it would start. So you might want to try that until you can get it fixed.
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