engine swap

94blklighting · #1 07-13-2003, 11:58 AM

Hey i am thinking about just swaping my engine instead of just rebuilding it because it cheaper. I dont know if i should get the b18c1 or the b18c5. I like NA but i am into turbo or sc because the power increase is so easily increased. But i think the b18c5 you cant have ac and it gets pretty hot some time and i like the ac so which one should i get. If i get one of them i am also going to bore it out to 2.0. Which one would be better for this.

B16EJ1 · #2 07-13-2003, 02:19 PM

Do it to the C1. The C5 is a NA motor and IMO costs just too much to get that extensive with mods.

PWMAN · #3 07-13-2003, 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by 94blklighting
I dont know if i should get the b18c1 or the b18c5. If i get one of them i am also going to bore it out to 2.0.

What engine is in your car now?
If you bore one of these engines out you are going to rebuild it. With all the money your going to have into buying it, building it, and swapping it you could build a serious engine (whatever you have now)with that kinda $$$.

94blklighting · #4 07-13-2003, 09:28 PM

i found from jdmhonda on partstrader.com that i can get a b18c1 for 2100 with tranny ecu and a startup warrenty and the engine has less then 45k on it which in imo is new. i got the b18c1 which i belive is the gsr engine the b18c5 is the type r. But ever rebuild kit i have found cost 1975 give or take a couple 100. So i figure why pay 1975 for a rebuild kit and pay someone to do the work. The rebuild is above my compablities. so i have to pay someone to do the work. I just figure its cheaper that why. But if i am wrong and someone know how to rebuild a engine that would help me and know a cheaper why to rebuild the engine please tell me.

PWMAN · #5 07-13-2003, 09:39 PM

First you have to tell me what kind of car/engine you have...

94blklighting · #6 07-13-2003, 10:08 PM

i got a b18c1 if that is the one in the 94 gsr

whtteg · #7 07-13-2003, 11:46 PM

$1975 for a rebuild kit

My god that is outragous, you could build it with forged internals and everything for that much, probably less

94blklighting · #8 07-15-2003, 03:32 PM

yea i know that is alot if you know of some other site with cheaper rebuild kits that would help. But if there is not one i will just buy the engine and bore that one out.

PWMAN · #9 07-15-2003, 05:06 PM

There isn't really any kit. You have to buy each part seperate.
I suggest you sleeve the block, and just use 85 mm sleeves. I'm not sure what displacement that will give you but it's a big improvement over the stock 81 mm bore.
After you sleeve get JE pistons and Eagle rods. Run 9:1 compression, and boost it big time. Run about 18 PSI, intercooled of course. I would recommend a REVHARD turbo kit, they are about the best out there right now. Upgrade your fuel system and get Hondata. Also run a minumum of 2.5'' exhaust (3'' is optimal) and you should be making 300 horses to the wheels.
Oh and I forgot to mention to rebuild the head with good stuff. You might want to think about a port and polish and 5 angle competition valve job while you're at it.

94blklighting · #10 07-15-2003, 06:24 PM

thanks man. Is that all i need to rebuild the engine or is there more to it.

PWMAN · #11 07-15-2003, 10:08 PM

more to what? Putting a turbo on?
I already said about fuel system and exhaust, is that what you mean?

94blklighting · #12 07-15-2003, 10:53 PM

No not the turbo . To REbuild the engine is that all i need to do.

94blklighting · #13 07-17-2003, 10:47 PM

If any of you guys can tell me what i need to buy to rebuild my engine that would help. I am also planning on bore it out to a 2.0l engine because some guy said if you going to rebuild it you should bore it out. Sounds like a good idea i just have no idea on what all the parts i need to do this.

PWMAN · #14 07-18-2003, 07:26 PM

You might want to think about getting a good set of cams. Crower makes really good cams.
Other than that, you need 85 mm sleeves, rods, pistons, rings, bearings, and everything to rebuild the head, and of course someone with the right experience to install everthing. Like I said before you might want to get a P&P job. While you're at it install a better oil pump.

94blklighting · #15 07-19-2003, 09:25 PM

i found this site where they do all the work and supply the parts to bore it out to 2.0 and rebuild it but it cost 4k that sounds right for the labor and everthing to me. But if that is not right then tell me.
here is the site http://www.ericksracing.com/engines.htm it for the 2.0l racing bottom end rebuild. they have the dynos for it makes about 254 hp cant tell how much tq. Sound good or should i just buy the parts my self

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