Question about Beemax MP4/2B Monaco

[Seamus McRae]

G'day all

Question for anyone in the crowd who has the Beemax McLaren as stated in the title. I just received their detail set in the mail from HLJ today & noticed it is missing the famous sponsor decals - odd considering the Monaco GP maintained tobacco sponsorship. And yet the detail set for their '84 British GP kit includes these sponsor decals, which is questionable given the conflicting pics I have found showing the cars with & without 'boro.
Anyone else have the same issue? Fixes?

Cheers

p.s. I haven't measured up the wings across both kits to see if they're similar in size, to see if I can poach the 'boros from the British kit. I also just noticed the Monaco kit is missing the Shell logos for the front wing & nose as well as the tyre template for the sponsor change & its associated decal for the nose. Very, very disappointing Beemax

[freakray]

Unfortunately missing sponsor logo's isn't on Beemax, it's on the owner of the branding. Even the Tamiya re-releases of certain kits (Porsche, Mclaren etc.) are missing Shell logos and such.

[Seamus McRae]

Originally Posted by freakray

Unfortunately missing sponsor logo's isn't on Beemax, it's on the owner of the branding. Even the Tamiya re-releases of certain kits (Porsche, Mclaren etc.) are missing Shell logos and such.

Yeah I get that. I could handle the missing Shell & Goodyear decals, since I know the IP of these brands often commands a handsome exchange of $$$, however it is odd that they include Marlboro decals in their detail set for the British GP kit (a race which generally banned tobacco advertising, though there are conflicting pics online) as well as a Michelin template. Why 1 & not the other?

[malscar]

Originally Posted by Seamus McRae

however it is odd that they include Marlboro decals in their detail set for the British GP kit (a race which generally banned tobacco advertising, though there are conflicting pics online)

Instead of relying on photos online, check the actual video of the Brands Hatch race. No Marlboro on the cars or driver's helmets etc. A quick look shows nothing on the nose and rear wing but looks like black stripes on the side pods. One thing I have not found evidence of other than a random comment on another forum is that they may have had the Tobacco sponsorship on the cars in practice but had to take it off for the race.

[malscar]

A bit more research and the comment on the other forum may be correct. This guy on Flikr has shots of practice the day before the race. The McLarens have full sponsorship showing -

https://www.flickr.com/photos/philin...57626415804047

Must admit it is weird as the race was sponsored and called the John Player Special British Grand Prix and this was carried on banners on the side of the track yet the Lotus did not carry the sponsorship, just the garlands. Even the champagne spraying photos show JPS stuff.

[Seamus McRae]

Originally Posted by malscar

A bit more research and the comment on the other forum may be correct. This guy on Flikr has shots of practice the day before the race. The McLarens have full sponsorship showing -

https://www.flickr.com/photos/philin...57626415804047

Must admit it is weird as the race was sponsored and called the John Player Special British Grand Prix and this was carried on banners on the side of the track yet the Lotus did not carry the sponsorship, just the garlands. Even the champagne spraying photos show JPS stuff.

Thanks malscar. That site has the very photos I mentioned as being contradictory to what I already have in my F1 books & what I've uncovered online

[chris24]

I think I read somewhere that the BBC was the problem (regarding the tobacco advertising), not the law at the time.

Maybe a Brit could clarify ?

[viperofoz]

Originally Posted by Seamus McRae

G'day all

. I just received their detail set in the mail from HLJ today & noticed it is missing the famous sponsor decals - odd considering the Monaco GP maintained tobacco sponsorship. And yet the detail set for their '84 British GP kit includes these sponsor decals,

That's interesting,
I just checked both of my sets and neither have the Marlboro decals..... Strange.

Regards, Dan