2K clear users - which respirator do you use?

[360spider]

Question to those who use 2K clear, which respirators/masks do you use?
I can no longer get cartridges for my old 3M mask, so need to get something new - what does everyone uses these days?

[AAlmeida]

I use the 3M 6200 mask with the black cartridge

[360spider]

Originally Posted by AAlmeida

I use the 3M 6200 mask with the black cartridge

I thought black cartridges do not filter organics? Iso is no joke man.

[Niro750]

You need air fed apparently. If you read up on it, very little can be done to filter out the vapor and it's very very toxic

[AAlmeida]

Originally Posted by 360spider

I thought black cartridges do not filter organics? Iso is no joke man.

[360spider]

Originally Posted by Niro750

You need air fed apparently. If you read up on it, very little can be done to filter out the vapor and it's very very toxic

Well, yes, and its also tasteless/has no smell. But the amount that we are (hobbysts) spraying is nowhere near to warrant an air-supply system, plus a good respirator with proper organic cartridges should be sufficient for spraying 20-30 grams of iso-based clears every now and then.

I was just wondering what everyones' setups were.

[Niro750]

Originally Posted by 360spider

Well, yes, and its also tasteless/has no smell. But the amount that we are (hobbysts) spraying is nowhere near to warrant an air-supply system, plus a good respirator with proper organic cartridges should be sufficient for spraying 20-30 grams of iso-based clears every now and then.

I was just wondering what everyones' setups were.

From experience I disagree. I use my fan pattern brush to spray 1k clear and lacquer and even with extraction and a mask I ended up sensitised to them. I was fine at first but it caught up with me when I did my pc case. I wouldn't risk it. According to hse advice it only takes a tiny little bit to give you an effect that can last a life time. I'd take every precaution.

[360spider]

Originally Posted by Niro750

From experience I disagree. I use my fan pattern brush to spray 1k clear and lacquer and even with extraction and a mask I ended up sensitised to them. I was fine at first but it caught up with me when I did my pc case. I wouldn't risk it. According to hse advice it only takes a tiny little bit to give you an effect that can last a life time. I'd take every precaution.

So what do you use?

[stevenoble]

I stopped using 2k to be honest. I read up on it and decided it's not worth the risk. Apparently it can go through your skin, eyes all manner of things. So it's not just a mask you need. But also eye and skin protection..

[360spider]

Originally Posted by stevenoble

I stopped using 2k to be honest. I read up on it and decided it's not worth the risk. Apparently it can go through your skin, eyes all manner of things. So it's not just a mask you need. But also eye and skin protection..

It does not go through the skin, it can cause allergic reaction if it gets on your skin, yes. You just wear gloves and long sleeve shirt, and painters goggles + respirator. I've done it for many years.

If you use organic filters rated at P95 or P100, you are pretty safe. The question was mostly which masks people use, I didn't realize that not a lot of people use 2K chemicals.

[Stealthee]

I've sprayed 2k clears on automobiles. It's not all that bad as some here are trying to make it out to be. There is definitely no need for an air fed system for the little amount being used on a model.

As far as respirators Harbor Freight actually sells disposable respirators. They are good for several uses of painting a whole automobile so they would probably be good til it deteriorates painting something like a model.

[Niro750]

Originally Posted by 360spider

So what do you use?

Still the same. I won't use 2k unless I get a better set up because it only takes one inhalation (according to safety advice I read a long time ago) to give you permanent symptoms

[Niro750]

Originally Posted by Stealthee

I've sprayed 2k clears on automobiles. It's not all that bad as some here are trying to make it out to be. There is definitely no need for an air fed system for the little amount being used on a model.

As far as respirators Harbor Freight actually sells disposable respirators. They are good for several uses of painting a whole automobile so they would probably be good til it deteriorates painting something like a model.

As good as it is to have someone with experience provide advice, I'm still not risking it. The risks are too high for me

[nakadds]

When you guys use respirators, is that in addition to a spray booth? When I use 2k, I try to spray as close to the extraction fan as possible so that the overspray and fumes goes out the window. I also have a window fan running pretty much 24/7 to keep the room ventilated whether I'm painting or not. Its not 100% safe but I feel like the risk is reduced. What kind of set up is everyone using in addition to respirators?

[360spider]

Well, I spray outside, so proper ventilation is a non-issue for me.