-
Grand Future Air Dried Fresh Beef Dog Food
Air Dried Dog Food | Fresh Beef

Carnivore Diet for Dogs

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Racing > Formula-One
Register FAQ Community
View Poll Results: What U.S. car make should go to f1?
chevy 2 28.57%
ford 0 0%
dodge 1 14.29%
they should work together to get there 0 0%
none of them 4 57.14%
Voters: 7. You may not vote on this poll

Reply Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 06-30-2003, 10:30 PM
fordjay16 fordjay16 is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 369
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Question american f1 (hypthetically of course

i think it would be the shit to see a american car company come to f1. I personally think all three main makes (chevy, dodge, and ford) could contend in f1 if they worked together to make a car and engine. what do you think.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-01-2003, 01:39 AM
zebrathree's Avatar
zebrathree zebrathree is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,455
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Ford are already in it, through Jaguar.

Those three work together? You must be joking, right?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-01-2003, 02:29 AM
ales's Avatar
ales ales is offline
Forza Schumacher
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 6,695
Thanks: 9
Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts
Not just Jaguar. Jaguar engines are branded "Cosworth", as are Minardi, while Jordan even has the blue oval on their cars, so Ford is very much involved in F1 and has been for decades.
__________________

Would love to resume my duties as AF's own official thread bastardizer!!!
1:29:53.435 || 207.316 || 310.596
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-01-2003, 04:17 AM
ChazC5R ChazC5R is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I realize that you are correct in stating that Ford is involved in F1 thru the cosworth engine program, however, I think what he means is that the big three US car manufacturers are not directly involved, in other words, none of the makes are campaigning there own team,such as ferrari . As you and I know, most of the teams are based on the chasis manufacturer and not the engine builder. Many teams are using BMW engines and so on.....Anyway, I think it would be cool to see Chevrolet take a shot at it, they are doing great in the American Le Mans series with the C5R vettes, they are not doing so well in the IRL which they just got back in to. I can't honestly see Dodge being able to compete, they have a good engine programm when in comes to NHRA ,but I can't see them being able to hang with the high revving technology required for a good podium presence in F1. Just my 2 cents..........lol
Attached Images
File Type: jpg bluec5r_lemans1.jpg (74.4 KB, 83 views)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-01-2003, 05:43 AM
zebrathree's Avatar
zebrathree zebrathree is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,455
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Ahhh, I forgot about those other teams ales.

I doubt Bernie will let anymore than one more team onto the grid. I think theres a 22 car limit?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-01-2003, 06:35 AM
Veyron's Avatar
Veyron Veyron is offline
AF Fanatic
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 4,707
Thanks: 8
Thanked 77 Times in 70 Posts
Smile

General Motors has expressed interest in maybe buying a team which goes to show they aren't and wouldn't be committed enough. Look what they did with the Cadillac program at Le Mans, never made enough commitment to even get close to winning while Audi spent 400 million dollars, you have to pay to play.
The Jaguar/Ford team have been a big joke thus far, with their budget they shoud be winning races. Just goes to show money is just part of it, also shows that competing in F1 is a tremendous undertaking that is definitely harder than it would seem.
It takes years of experience to reach the top, I doubt there are many, or anymore factories that would financially and managerially stick to it long enough to make it.
__________________
There is a lesson in every kit.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-01-2003, 10:31 AM
Guido Guido is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,285
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Dodge is part of Daimler Chrysler so that's also a no go, since Mercedes represents that group.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-01-2003, 01:11 PM
fordjay16 fordjay16 is offline
AF Enthusiast
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 369
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
chevy has annouced they are switching to cosworth engines later this year in irl. chevy and ford working together
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-01-2003, 01:17 PM
freakray freakray is offline
AF Modelrater
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 12,894
Thanks: 18
Thanked 63 Times in 56 Posts
Quote:
Originally posted by fordjay16
chevy has annouced they are switching to cosworth engines later this year in irl. chevy and ford working together
No, Chevy and Cosworth working together.
Cosworth tune the engines, they actually aren't even a proper Ford company.

A Ford Cosworth is a Cosworth tuned Ford engine.
__________________
AF User Guidelines
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-01-2003, 01:41 PM
fordjay16 fordjay16 is offline
AF Enthusiast
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 369
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally posted by freakray


No, Chevy and Cosworth working together.
Cosworth tune the engines, they actually aren't even a proper Ford company.

A Ford Cosworth is a Cosworth tuned Ford engine.
ford owns cosworth
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-01-2003, 01:46 PM
freakray freakray is offline
AF Modelrater
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 12,894
Thanks: 18
Thanked 63 Times in 56 Posts
Quote:
Originally posted by fordjay16


ford owns cosworth
Not quite

From the press release:
Following their acquisition by AUDI AG, the various areas of Cosworth were brought together under the name Cosworth Technology Ltd. Cosworth Technology Ltd. operates from four locations: in Northampton (UK) the company develops all-in solutions for drivelines – from the initial draft design of the engine to the testing of control systems. Aluminium cylinder heads and engine blocks of very high purity are cast at Worcester (UK). The Cosworth Technology process is patented. The ultra-modern plant at Wellingborough (UK) produces and assembles engines. This plant supplies the engines and machined cylinder heads and engine blocks for the Audi RS 6, for example. The development of innovative information and diagnostic systems at Novi (Michigan, USA) completes the line-up. Audi consequently has technologies at its disposal that will continue to corroborate its Vorsprung durch Technik in the future
__________________
AF User Guidelines
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-01-2003, 03:15 PM
Guido Guido is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,285
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Interesting reading Ray.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-01-2003, 03:17 PM
freakray freakray is offline
AF Modelrater
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 12,894
Thanks: 18
Thanked 63 Times in 56 Posts
Quote:
Originally posted by huudo
Interesting reading Ray.
More where that came from:

http://www.audi.com/com/en/company/s...h/cosworth.jsp
__________________
AF User Guidelines
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-01-2003, 05:45 PM
z33guy's Avatar
z33guy z33guy is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 543
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to z33guy
chevy could care less, they are in nascar and the irl. Dodge is affiliated with Benz and they are already in there. That would be like nissan coming in when renault is already there. The only way i could see it happening is if they just branded the engine a different make.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-03-2003, 10:25 AM
YogsVR4's Avatar
YogsVR4 YogsVR4 is offline
Funding the welfare state
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 17,795
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Send a message via AIM to YogsVR4
In the US Nascar is where you want to be seen.













__________________
Resistance Is Futile (If < 1ohm)
Reply With Quote
 
Reply

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Racing > Formula-One


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:18 AM.

Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 
 
no new posts