Rover Engine Swap?

[Civic Jim]

OK

in the UK we get Rover's, from 1990 to about 1995 they made these cars with the D16A9 (same as ZC) in them, now can i fit that engine into my 4th gen hatch?

i know it is the same engine, but do they have wiring harness's or different mounting points? coz i could get hold of one of these engines SO easy it is unbelivable

any help is much appreciated coz i am serious about this swap

Cheerz

Jim

[Moppie]

eh?


Are you sure its exactly the same as the Honda engine?

All the Rovers Iv seen here in NZ might have used the Honda chassis (often with out the double wishbone suspension) but they all have either a Roverised Honda engine, or totaly Rover engine.
In both cases they spin in the opposite direction to the Honda engines, which makes swapping them into a 4g almost impossible.

However if Rover were useing the Honda engine on models that we never got, then a Honda engine is a Honda engine, and it should bolt in just as if it was a normal swap.
But being that it came out of a Rover I would check the level of tune first, no point swapping in an engine that was detuned for Rover

[Civic Jim]

well the engine is Definately a D16A9 and its identical i am just worried about the wiring, gearbox, driveshafts more than anything

[Moppie]

If its deffinitly the same engine and sits on the left hand side of the car, with the g/box on the right, then it will be exactly the same g/box as well, and it should bolt straight into a 4g the same way a normal ZC will.

To check on the harness you will need to either take a detailed pic, and compare it with a regular 4g, or part the two cars close together and have a look, but as the Rover uses the Civic chassis, and evidently the same engine then I imagine it will be exactly the same, or for what your doing close enough.
The engine mounts I should assume are also the same, for the same reasons. If not then I think your old D series mounts in the Civic will work anyway.

The axles are the only things I would be worried about.
On most of the Rovondas Iv seen the double wish bone set up has been replaced by Mcpheason struts at the front and beam axle at the back.
If this is the case with the car this engine is comeing out of then the axles will be differnt, but again like the mounts since its all B series stuff Im pretty sure you can use the orginal ones from the Civic.
If the Rovonda still has the double wish bone suspension then grab axles as well for a spare set.



What model Rovonda is it? and have you got any pics of it?

[Civic Jim]

well it is a rover 416gti, heres a pic of a 216gti, the same but the 400 has a boot, i would probly get the engine, gbox, wiring, inlet, manifold, driveshafts, and hubs i spec

[MyFirst4G]

Take more pics, i wanna see this engine!!!

[Civic Jim]

ok i will try, i might go to the junkyard this weekend, coz they have a complete 90-91 4door breaking with light fornt end damage

[Setanta]

Same motor as the one in the Rovers we got here - which was just a rebadged 4 door 'teg. Use the engine mounts that came with the D16A9 and it will bolt in fine apparently - the same as dropping it in from a hatch 'teg or Si CRX with ZC/A9. Just get rid of the Rover badges first

[Setanta]

Oh - and you might want to pick up the Si CRX or Civic bonnet - so that you have the cam "hump" in it so the engine clears the bonnet. You've owned a Si though, so I guess it's just preaching to someone who knew that

[Civic Jim]

ah right, cool, yeah i will have to get a new bonnet, cheerz for the info, coz i can get hold of one of those engines MEGA easy, the engine doesnt have any rover stamped on it, the rocker just has 16 VALVE on the top , nothing else

[Moppie]

Hey, do you have any idea whats in the Rover 220/Tomcat?
Its based on the Civic Coupe, and all I know is that its 2.0L Turbo, and its not a K series, any chance its a Roverised B20a? or does Rover have thier own 2.0L engine?

[Civic Jim]

Originally posted by Moppie
Hey, do you have any idea whats in the Rover 220/Tomcat?
Its based on the Civic Coupe, and all I know is that its 2.0L Turbo, and its not a K series, any chance its a Roverised B20a? or does Rover have thier own 2.0L engine?

its rovers own engine, they r about 180 - 200 bhp stock,

[darolh]

Interesting thread. We had some Roverhondas (or Roveracuras)imported from the UK some years back...called Sterlings. They were pretty poor as I understand. They didn't last long and gave up.

[EF6_CR-X]

civic 16valver:

Your car is carburetted isn't it?

to change over to FI you will also need most of the fuel system components, including the tank fuel pump and some fuel lines, and you will also need most of the wiring loom and ecu to setup the FI.

Unless you are going to run the DOHC on carbs which would be a lot easier, but maybe less power.

[Setanta]

Personally I'd run an aftermarket pump (it's new) and surge tank as well as a programmable ECU.