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06-28-2003, 10:19 AM
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Why is Skyline so special
This is not a import vs Domestic topic..
I am just wandering why the Skyline is so much a killer car... I hear about how they make so much killer power in Japan.. and all that,, I mean, what about a 93+ Twin turbo supra? You can make powr from that also... My point is, you could take the new japan ver Skyline, sneak it over here to USA, take a 10 yr old 93 Supra, have $5000 in mods each to give both, and the Supra would probably mop the Skylines butt all over the place in a 1/4 mile and maybe even handling... I am no import lover, but why worry about the FASTER japan ver of the skyline not comming to American, when you already have pretty impressive killer big power jap imports here that have the same or better potentual.. And there is more than the supra here for good imports too. scott
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#2
06-28-2003, 10:50 AM
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Do you see many skylines aren't here? What about supras? That answers your question. Supra is a great car, but it is simply no match for skyline. There's simply too much to mention to compare the two. But a few key points.. skyline is quite easily get over 1000hp, yet supras tend to be around 800-900 range. Sure you might be able to whoop a skyline using the same money (or even much less) you spend on one, but I think you get much more respect driving the gtr.
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06-28-2003, 01:16 PM
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Yeah, scarcity makes all the difference. I've not ever seen a Skyline in person, yet I see Supras all the time...
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06-28-2003, 01:23 PM
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The main difference is that Skyline has a very sophisticated 4wd system and suspension. Supra is RWD. In drag racing, a 4wd/Awd car will kill a rwd car. That is why there are so many 10 second Eclipse GSXs.
If you have 800hp going to the wheels, you'd want to pair that with traction, and the only way to do that is to deliver the power to all 4 wheels.
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06-28-2003, 04:20 PM
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You better listen, the GOD has spoken...
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06-28-2003, 04:28 PM
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Pffff... He's nothing special. 
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06-28-2003, 04:56 PM
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The Supra is just as good as the Skyline.
There are many drag Skylines with RWD (modifications to the ATTESSA-ETS). Granted, the Skyline has some serious kit with 4 wheel intelligent steering (Super HICAS Pro) and the aforementioned ATTESSA-ETS torque splitter. A RWD car has its advantages to a 4WD car, but then the driver's preferences come into play. Hell, I have even heard of 6 second Supras, Supras with 900bhp on a stock bottom end, and Supras that are good on the track. |
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06-28-2003, 05:10 PM
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 Show me this mythecal 6 Second Supra please.
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#9
06-28-2003, 07:35 PM
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while the supra is a nice simply tried and trued sports car, RWD and powerful motor, the skyline is a technological power house. with all the technology behind it, the skyline is a very very good overall car. the skyline is known to acelerate well, but thats not what its really known for. its known for its extreme ease of being able to be driving hard and fast. it makes any amatuer driver look like a pro. the skyline can probrably do a lap more then a minute faster then a supra at the nurburing. the skyline is one of hte very very few cars in the world that can break the 8 minute barrier at the nurbring ( an 11 mile race track ) the older R33 GT-R vspec II was able to do the track in 7:59 seconds. and during that time, it broke the world record for being the fastest mass produced car in world. just to let you know how fast that is, the Z06 for '04 just broke the 8 minute barrier this year during its testing and it only beat a skyline that is 7 years old by 3 seconds. you see where i'm gettin at now?
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06-28-2003, 07:36 PM
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You're completely right though, for example, in JGTC (Japan Grand Touring Car Championship) all the Skyline are stripped to RWD. They have around 450-550 horses and compete against Supras, NSXs, Vipers, and even McLaren F1 GT-Rs. http://www.jgtc.net/race/2003/03r1/031grid.htm Look at the starting grid -> the a Skyline GT-R has the pole position. And here are the results -> http://www.jgtc.net/race/2003/03r1/031resu.htm Notice how the McLaren F1 GT-R took the last place out of the 13 competing in the class GT500. Sorry... started rambling on...
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06-28-2003, 07:40 PM
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wasn't the reason why the skyline was striped of its AWD and 4wheel steering was becasue when the R32 first came out it won 56 out of 56 races, and it totally destroyed the group A racing in japan. the car was demned "unstopable" so they had to start a new racing series with stricter regulations, such as that having AWD is no long allowed along with 4 wheel steering? and that happend during 94 i believe and that was the first year the skyline didn't take home the champion ship. it was the tom's supra. that i think thats the current japanese grand touring champion ships that we see today.
edit: there is a post about a Z06 racing a R34 GT-R and they lapped within a few tenths of a second from each other. not bad for a car with less power and weights around 400lbs more.
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#12
06-28-2003, 07:45 PM
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Good info TatII, never heard that details on the R32 fiasco before.
The GT-R is truly an awesome automobile, call me crazy, but I'd take a GT-R over any car. Like an R33 LM with an N1 engine block. 
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#13
06-28-2003, 07:55 PM
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The skyline is great car no doubt, with near limitless power potential, and one of the best things i like is the LCD HUD on the r34 (its just so sexy). However i would still rather have a rx-7 with a 20b anyday of the week.
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#14
06-28-2003, 08:07 PM
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Shit well since we're talking about Skylines seems like Fuelsluts are as well. Found this on their kill stories forum.
http://www.exvitermini.com/mr33.htm
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06-28-2003, 09:04 PM
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I dont know if I agree with AWD being better for drag racing than RWD. If thats ture how come the fastest dragsters are Rwd? Awd does give you better traction but you lose more power with Awd before it can get to the ground than Rwd. Also Awd is good at first but once you grip you dont want 4wd any more. Thats one of the things that I find so cool about the Skyline once you have traction it sends most of the power to the rear wheels
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