2003 European GP at Nurburgring

[ales]

And after the first qualifying session I can say once again that the new rules fail miserably.

1
Raikkonen McLaren M
1:29.989 127.968 mph

2
M Schumacher Ferrari B
1:30.353 0.364

3
Montoya WilliamsF1 M
1:30.378 0.389

4
R Schumacher WilliamsF1 M
1:30.522 0.533

5
Barrichello Ferrari B
1:30.842 0.853

6
Coulthard McLaren M
1:30.903 0.914

7
Trulli Renault M
1:31.143 1.154

8
Alonso Renault M
1:31.533 1.544

9
Fisichella Jordan B
1:32.196 2.207

10
Frentzen Sauber B
1:32.201 2.212

11
Button BAR B
1:32.479 2.490

12
Webber Jaguar M
1:35.972 5.983

13
Heidfeld Sauber B
1:52.300 22.311

14
Firman Jordan B
1:53.893 23.904

15
Wilson Minardi B
1:54.546 24.557

16
Verstappen Minardi B
1:55.921 25.932

17
Panis Toyota M
1:57.327 27.338

18
Pizzonia Jaguar M
1:57.435 27.446

19
da Matta Toyota M
No Time
-

20
Villeneuve BAR B
No Time
-

[freakray]

Originally posted by ales
And after the first qualifying session I can say once again that the new rules fail miserably.

Ellaborate please.....

It's only first session qualifying, everything could change.

We are moving this weekend so I don't get to watch the GP...no TV

[Raging Bull]

Go kimi

[ales]

Originally posted by freakray


Ellaborate please.....

It started to rain not long after the start of the session (look at the gaps), so it obvioulsly wasn't an equal situation for everyone, and JV aquaplaned off the track while Damatta made many mistakes and aborted the lap. Quite a few other drivers made mistakes in the rain as well.

[Chain]

Go Montoya! Go Williams! Go BMW!

You go girl!....ooops

Somehow the 1st qual doesnt excite me much and you know why.

We'll see about tomorrow and bring on the rain!

[freakray]

Originally posted by ales


It started to rain not long after the start of the session (look at the gaps), so it obvioulsly wasn't an equal situation for everyone, and JV aquaplaned off the track while Damatta made many mistakes and aborted the lap. Quite a few other drivers made mistakes in the rain as well.

I see what you're saying, but to be honest that doesn't really effect the top driver's times as much as from the middle order on back.....although I admit it has some effect on the overall field as there is a distinct 20 second jump.....

MS will probably rise to the challenge and push Kimi tomorrow in qualifying anyway.....

[Chain]

Originally posted by ales


It started to rain not long after the start of the session (look at the gaps), so it obvioulsly wasn't an equal situation for everyone, and JV aquaplaned off the track while Damatta made many mistakes and aborted the lap. Quite a few other drivers made mistakes in the rain as well.

I feel for them. No seriously, frustrations and being unlucky.

[Raging Bull]

Results are in, not a bad session whatsoever. Mclaren can put a guy on pole with the 17!!

1 Kimi Raikkonen McLaren 1m31.523s



2 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1m31.555s



3 Ralf Schumacher Williams 1m31.619s



4 Juan Pablo Montoya Williams 1m31.765s



5 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1m31.780s



6 Jarno Trulli Renault 1m31.976s



7 Olivier Panis Toyota 1m32.350s



8 Fernando Alonso Renault 1m32.424s



9 David Coulthard McLaren 1m32.742s



10 Cristiano da Matta Toyota 1m32.949s



11 Mark Webber Jaguar 1m33.066s



12 Jenson Button BAR 1m33.395s



13 Giancarlo Fisichella Jordan 1m33.553s



14 Ralph Firman Jordan 1m33.827s



15 Heinz-Harald Frentzen Sauber 1m34.000s



16 Antonio Pizzonia Jaguar 1m34.159s



17 Jacques Villeneuve BAR 1m34.596s



18 Jos Verstappen Minardi 1m36.318s



19 Justin Wilson Minardi 1m36.485s



20 Nick Heidfeld Sauber 0m0s


[edit] And DC, what are you doin!! [/edit]

[z33guy]

it was pretty interesting watching kimi on his run. After what micheal said about a faster driver coming along, he would retire short of the 06 season. Then kimi beats him in qualifying. i cant wait for the race.

[Guido]

Originally posted by Raging Bull
Mclaren can put a guy on pole with the 17!!

17D that is.

[Chain]

Originally posted by Raging Bull
Results are in, not a bad session whatsoever. Mclaren can put a guy on pole with the 17!!

1 Kimi Raikkonen McLaren 1m31.523s
2 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1m31.555s
3 Ralf Schumacher Williams 1m31.619s
4 Juan Pablo Montoya Williams 1m31.765s
5 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1m31.780s
6 Jarno Trulli Renault 1m31.976s

7 Olivier Panis Toyota 1m32.350s
8 Fernando Alonso Renault 1m32.424s
9 David Coulthard McLaren 1m32.742s
10 Cristiano da Matta Toyota 1m32.949s
11 Mark Webber Jaguar 1m33.066s
12 Jenson Button BAR 1m33.395s
13 Giancarlo Fisichella Jordan 1m33.553s
14 Ralph Firman Jordan 1m33.827s
15 Heinz-Harald Frentzen Sauber 1m34.000s
16 Antonio Pizzonia Jaguar 1m34.159s
17 Jacques Villeneuve BAR 1m34.596s
18 Jos Verstappen Minardi 1m36.318s
19 Justin Wilson Minardi 1m36.485s
20 Nick Heidfeld Sauber 0m0s
And DC, what are you doin!!

Wow, what a qualifier!
I started to wake up when it was Coulthard's turn. Must say it was a disappointed one from him.
Trulli really set the pace, go renault!
It was very exciting to see the last of the 5s take their turns, all below the 1m32s barrier and within split secs away.

Lets hope that tomorrow will be an exciting race.

Go williams, go bmw, go Montoya go!

[RallyRaider]

First pole for Kimi and the McLaren MP4/17

What is going on? Are McLaren using 18 parts or do Bridgestone have a problem? If the former they must only be fitting them to Kimi's car

Of course there is a third option and that is that Kimi is driving the fat old mac out of it's skin. Yeah, lets go with that!

[Chain]

Originally posted by RallyRaider
First pole for Kimi and the McLaren MP4/17

What is going on? Are McLaren using 18 parts or do Bridgestone have a problem? If the former they must only be fitting them to Kimi's car

Of course there is a third option and that is that Kimi is driving the fat old mac out of it's skin. Yeah, lets go with that!

RRaider, if its the former, then we should call it a 17E haha right huudo?
Otherwise, my hats off to Kimi.

[Raging Bull]

Originally posted by RallyRaider

Of course there is a third option and that is that Kimi is driving the fat old mac out of it's skin. Yeah, lets go with that!

[ales]

Originally posted by RallyRaider
First pole for Kimi and the McLaren MP4/17

What is going on? Are McLaren using 18 parts or do Bridgestone have a problem?

Both. Seriously, the car has just the monocoque from the last year's car, the rest (aero package, engine, electronics) are all totally new. Maybe not quite from the 18, but have little in common with the 2002 car.

And Michelin seem to have a huge advantage as well. Look at the top 10 - just 2 Bridgestone-shod cars, and those are Ferraris.

And Kimi did a great job as well. This was seriously the most entertaining qualifying session of the year.