91pa no start

[dynamos69]

I have a 91 park ave it wont start all the lights come on the dash . If I run jumper to starter it turns wont stay running unless I pour gas in line. appears to not be getting power to starter and fuel system any idea what controls both of these? thanks

[Tech II]

Yes, your SECURITY system......turn your key to "on"....do not crank the car...all the lights will light on the dash......Look for your SECURITY light....it should come on for 3-5 seconds and then go out.....If it doesn't go out, that is your problem........the usual problem is the wire harness in the steering column from your ignition lock cylinder, has a broken wire.....two options: replace the lock cylinder, or cut the harness and attach a resistor equal to the resistor in your ignition key......

[dynamos69]

thanks i'll try that. I was just under car by starter and the wire that runs off to 3-4 sensors is all melted together and exposed?

[dynamos69]

I got underneath and found that all 4 sensors have exposed wires that have been grounding out all the way to starter should I get all new wiring harness im at a point where I don't know what to do

[Tech II]

I'm a little confused by the wires you are describing....if wires are bare and exposed, they would ground out and either blow fuses or melt fuseable links.....

The purple wire, that goes to your starter solenoid, is that one of the wires?

Exactly where are these wires? What are they attached to, to get a clearer picture of their position?

[dynamos69]

the wire are in the front of car one wire runs down from battery and braches off to 4 sensors? where they are grounding out one is below alternator on the top of?whatever is below it at the bottom where serpentine belt goes around others possibly knock sensor & tps & sir system

[Tech II]

Are you talking about the pos cable running down from the battery, attaches to the starter solenoid, and the fuseable links that branch off from this?

[dynamos69]

Okay they go opposite way of purple wire. one goes to top of crank one goes to a/c & 2 other unknown A couple are round 2 prong 1 is flat 3 prong and have not got the last one off (crank) sorry about that I'm kind of learning as I go which isn't good for this situation. Thank you very much

[Tech II]

Have you checked the SECURITY light, yet?

[dynamos69]

going to bypass security now thanks

[dynamos69]

bypassed security and security light is still on and still no start what next?

[Tech II]

Exactly, how did you bypass the SECURITY?

Does the vehicle now crank over, where before you had to use a jumper wire?

Do you have fuel pressure? You obviously have spark.....

Have you checked for codes by jumping A to B in the ALDL connector(install jumper, then just turn key to "on", and count the flashes.....will flash "12" three times, and then flash codes after that, three times for each code)?

Did you at least tape those exposed wires?

[dynamos69]

i bypassed the vats by putting the same value resistors to the two white wires leading away from steering wheel 1 on each. had key and resistor checked by alarm place. sill no crank or gas. fuel pressure checks okay .taped wires going to jump a&b right now

[dynamos69]

just tried to check codes jumped a&b turned key on all that showed on dash was security and service eng soon no flashing or codes tried jumping starter it turned but wont start

[Tech II]

The CE light did not flash when you jumpered A to B with the key on?

Next thing I would do, is start checking all the fuses......I believe you have them in more than one place....check your owner's manual for locations.......those bare wires could have taken out a fuse(s).....