So you know

[Redrunner]

A while back I asked what all have you beat and list a group oh cars I have beat. Then like always on this forum the haters came out and talk made shit and tried to pull the BS flag on me then ONE MOD show up and but them in there place That MOD was CarrrNuttt he post this to help me and to show you Haters that you may not know as much as you think you do and you cant read to much in to HP



Now before I paste this this is from a MOD that IROC i raced was really really shitty lookin and also if you read what I said the GT may not how been a GT gay people add gay things like Gt and cobra sign to there car


For those of you calling up the flag for the thread starter, I think all of you should think about it first before you start doing so.

I for one believe him for many reasons.
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1) He ended his post by asking if it's possible that the car has some internal work done by a prior owner without his knowledge, which though unlikely, is possible.
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2) His car. I am sure that if it was somebody with an EX, even with just a SOHC, you'd all have an easier time believing him, since he'd have the almighty VTEC.

In car-stats.com (which I'm using since it is tangible and easy to confirm by you guys), it states that the the 1996 Civic DX (essentially the same car) runs a 16.7 quarter stock. In the same site, the 1996 Civic EX runs a 17.6...almost a second slower.

How can that be? How can two similar cars...except one has 127HP and the other has 106HP...be so unequal, with the advantage going to the one with less HP? Easy. It's called OPTIONS. All the standard equipment available on a Civic EX but not on a DX (i.e., ABS, PW, PDL, MNRF) adds about 200-300lbs on to that chassis.

We all know how power-sapping that much weight difference can be. Anyone that has tried to race with and without a passenger can attest to that.

But wouldn't the extra power make-up for it? Maybe in the extreme top-end. Since both powerplants (d16y7, d16y8) put out similar torque, the weight difference is very noticeable when both take-off from a light.
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3) The cars he challenged.

Let's look at them:

a) 1986 RX-7 == Stock and without a turbo, these cars run a best of mid-low 16's in perfect tune. Don't forget, this is a 17yr-old car.

b) 1998 Accord LX == A high 16, low 17-second car, though capable of low 16's bone stock with a capable driver...so's the DX.

c) 1990-1991 240SX == Mid 16-second car in good tune.

d) Celica GT == He never mentioned what year. For all we know, it's an older model GT, which were low 17, mid 16-second cars too. Heck, even the new GTs (not GT-S, GT) are mid/low 16-second cars.

e) 1990-1991 EX Accord == Another 17-second car. Oh, that's also in good tune.

f) Old Camaro IROC == Hardest one to swallow out of all the line-up. These category of cars. The old IROCs (1985-1990), ran between a mid-14 to mid 15-second quarter, depending on year and trim.

Two things, either he mistook a Camaro RS...with the 305 and running high 16's...for an IROC, or he caught one in really bad tune, which is more than possible.
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In any case, it's bad enough that everbody and their grandma's would stomp on and bash Honda drivers with any chance they get, and here you guys are ready to pounce on a fellow Honda driver without considering all the facts...AND the people replying are hating on each other too...damn.



So hmmm.... I guess I was right and also I always have the HORN I like the ADV.

[Miataracer]

not trying to be mean but I think people got the idea the first time you posted that

[Redrunner]

Sorry yes you are right I would like to say sorry to you and the Forum

[B16EJ1]

So delete this post.

[CivicSiRacer]

Ok this is getting ridiculous. The Civic forum is for CIVIC topics only. We have other forums like Street Racing and Off Topic for NON-CIVIC type posts. Put them there.

[carrrnuttt]

We already have a topic in here to cover this. Use that one.