Rumsfeld threatens Belgium

[taranaki]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,89388,00.html

Now he thinks he can push Belgium around by threatening to push NATO around.Do the U.S Governmemnt have any respect for other nations,the laws of other nations,or any mulitinational organisations[except oil companies]?

[YogsVR4]

Considering what Belgium is doing with all those "war crimes" suits, I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner.

You didn't have a problem with France or Russia using their right to give a veto in the UN over Iraq but you have a problem with the US using its right to request a move NATO headquarters. Belgium has often sited the death penalty in the US as reasons for not extraditing people. They request the law be changed. The difference here being what?

[gigatron]

The US has veto'd the UN resolutions against Israeli and its human rights issues, the occupation issue, etc... Of course I am against what the US has done here. The US is trying to be above the law and with no regards of other countries again. It's our way or the highway. See its interesting since this comes with those laws being softened already.. See a Nuremburg trial for the US gov. is needed but of course that's not gona happen since the US gov. doesn't want it to happen.. To the US gov. you're good till you're useful. As in the case of Belgium here.. they are no longer good so lets bring them down entirely. Who the hell does the US think they are? Let me remind you that Belgium was also one of the founders here... urgh.. It's like a good deed is done "Hey we were with you" a bad deed was done "Hey get out of our site" and of course this whilst its in the US interest.

[gigatron]

http://www.iht.com/articles/99487.html

Hah.. rumsfield and his useless threats.. they'll hit him back a few times like someone beating him with a bat..

Trying to be above the law.. tsk tsk tsk
http://www.rense.com/general38/rurme.htm

[taranaki]

Originally posted by YogsVR4
Considering what Belgium is doing with all those "war crimes" suits, I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner.

Why should the United States run away and hide in the face of a judicial inquiry?Does Rumsfeld know more about war crimes than he cares for the world to be shown?
The U.S. defence budget [and the U.S.'invade and subvert' budget] runs to billions of dollars.The U.S. government's public relations budget probably runs to millions as well.If Rumsfeld is convinced that any accusations of war crimes are baseless ,then he has all the resources at his fingertips to defend the U.S. IN ANY COURT OF LAW.Instead,he is attempting to pervert the cause of justice by threatening,quite ridiculously,to remove NATO from Belgium.Hey Rummy,here's a heads up...NATO IS NOT YOURS TO REMOVE,YOU FUCKWIT.It is a multinational institution whos function is based on dialogue and cooperation,not some plaything for the President's chief bully.Belgium is a perfectly neutral country with regards to the war that George Bush has visited upon Iraq,and has laws which permit the scrutiny of other nations actions.If as we are constantly being told,the war on Iraq was both neccesary and engaged in as humane a manner as possible,Uncle Sam has nothing to fear from fronting up to international justice.The very fact that Rumsfeld is prepared to make such threats would indicate that he has very little spine when asked to account for the actions of his troops.

[YogsVR4]

Sorry, but asking citizens to defend themselves from lawsuits brought by any country that passes whatever arbitrary law they want is absurd. With that line of thinking, every world leader would be standing in front of a jury in one country after another. Chirac in the Ivory Coast. Roh in Soul. Putin in Chechnya. The list would be endless.

Belgium is hardly a "perfectly neutral country" in regards to Iraq.

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

The US doesn't listen to any of the other countries and does what suits its politics. I don't think thats they way to conduct oneself in todays world.

[YogsVR4]

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
The US doesn't listen to any of the other countries and does what suits its politics. I don't think thats they way to conduct oneself in todays world.

Thats not true.

Whats at issue is you don't like when the US disagrees with certain positions.

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

Originally posted by YogsVR4


Thats not true.

Whats at issue is you don't like when the US disagrees with certain positions.

I don't quite understand the point you're putting across there but good job

All i said was i don't believe that they conduct themselves appropriately in todays politics

They don't give on any sort of issue and they think they're right all the time and everyone else is wrong.

It'll be interesting to see the BBC program on tonight called "what the world thinks of America."

[gigatron]

When's that on? Tuesday here, -5 timezone eastern time, ontario canada. It's 12:15PM now. Going to take an exam for something. What time tonight?

[YogsVR4]

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K

I don't quite understand the point you're putting across there but good job

Refer to your earlier post.

The US doesn't listen to any of the other countries and does what suits its politics.

That is not true. They are all one-syllable words so I can't make it much easier then that.

They don't give on any sort of issue and they think they're right all the time and everyone else is wrong.

Thats true for everyone. Who comes out thinking, "Today I will state my position and I know its the wrong one."

All i said was i don't believe that they conduct themselves appropriately in todays politics

Other then the fact the earlier quote is from the same post your assessment of todays politics is to socialistic for my taste. I'd rather we not conduct policy based on eurocentric policies.

[gigatron]

Oh so basically who gives a crap about europeans lets do it 'our way' Yog? Interesting...

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

Originally posted by gigatron
Oh so basically who gives a crap about europeans lets do it 'our way' Yog? Interesting...

yea i feel that is a narrow minded view that seems to be what Yogs things.

You do realise all the Major Economies of the world are interdependant
Europe and America have very strong links and that is why we need to resolve our differences

I like they way you brand me a socialist thats nice could you be any more
antagonistic
arrogant
naive
Sterotypical American
All the Above

[taranaki]

Originally posted by YogsVR4
Sorry, but asking citizens to defend themselves from lawsuits brought by any country that passes whatever arbitrary law they want is absurd. With that line of thinking, every world leader would be standing in front of a jury in one country after another. Chirac in the Ivory Coast. Roh in Soul. Putin in Chechnya. The list would be endless.

Belgium is hardly a "perfectly neutral country" in regards to Iraq.

Sorry,but it's time that certain Americans came to terms with the fact that a huge portion of the world's population would like to see a little more accountability.Since the end of the second world war,American foreign policy has been to pick on smaller countries seemingly at random,crusading under whatever 'anti' gets the incumbent president the votes that he needs to get re-elected.

If your leaders are too chicken,too yellow, or too cowardly to face an international court and account for their actions.........Maybe there is some truth in the allegations.Maybe American troops are responsible for war crimes.Threatening people is not going to change their perspective.If your wars are squeaky clean,step up to the plate and put your money where your propaganda is.

And Belgium is far,far,far, more neutral on Iraq than America can ever hope to be.Idoubt if George understands the concept of neutrality,and Idoubt if he'd know where to look for a definition.

[YogsVR4]

Originally posted by gigatron
Oh so basically who gives a crap about europeans lets do it 'our way' Yog? Interesting...

Excuse me. I forgot that you worship at the feet of Europeans.