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Old 06-10-2003, 08:28 PM
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Quickest Factory Imports from Japn

I'd like to know the top 10-20 quickest cars form Japan in the 1/4 mile, Factor production cars...
Anyone here might know, also which ones are the cheapest to build up...
From what I have Gathered
Thr New Suberu 300 hp 4dr car has gone like 13.1 to 13.5's.. The EVO-8 like 13.2-13.6
The Toyota Supra Twin Turbo 13.4's, 300ZX, Stealth/3000 Gt VR4 like 13.7's...
I'm sure the Skyline goes into the 13's..




I'm trying to gether this all up, WE all see the 50 fastest American cars in the 14/s
whats the 50 fastest Japanese cars in the 1/4, not ecounting race production exotics.
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Any web pages for info on stats...?

As far as cheap performance upgrading.. the Diomand Star cars, esp the older models 90-93's Eagle Talons, Plymouth Lasers, Mitsubishi Eclipse, all go like 14.8-15.5's but with a chip upgrade can go mid 13's, and high 12's with work to inlets, Waste-gate etc and only maybe $1000-2000 invested into parts...

Was telling my Hunting buddy who loves Japanese cars about the above, was considering buying a quick import car from Japan.. and although I don't see his light, I would like to help him, and have told him of how he can get Eagle Talons Turbos moderatly cheap, esp the older ones, and from what I hear they have larger de-turned turbos on em..
so that might be his ticket over just buying a Stock 13.9 sec 300ZX or 3000GT.


Doesn't matrter anyway I guess, cause he's not gonna keep up with my old American iron no matter what he gets I tell him.. . :-)

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well if you have a japanese guy drive the Skyline or the true EVO's not the detuned ones that we get in the states, they all run anywhere from 12.8 to a 12.9 on the 400km track which is only 8 ft shy of the 1/4 mile. and all of those cars can do 0-60 from high 4 to mid 4 seconds. plus the new NSX type R 6 speed can do 0-60 in low 4 seconds. now that we're talkin about limited production cars as well, then we might as well throw in the nissan NISMO 400R ( a R33 skyline GT-R ) with 400hp that should do the 1/4 mile in the mid 12's. then you have another nismo tuned skyline (the R34 skyline GT-R) which has 450hp and that should do it in the mid to low 12's. trust me there are alot of japanese cars that can hit 12's from the factory. its just that we usually get the watered down cars when it hits the states, but the people who test the cars isn't exactly the best to test them with because they are not used with shiftin with their left arm.
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Supra's, VR4's, and 300zx's are in the 12's with a tune-up, intake, exhaust, fuel, and a boost controller.

DSM's (Talon, Eclipse, Lazer) take the above mods along with a bigger turbo and front mount intercooller.

240sx takes a SR20DET engine swap plus all the above mods.

Civic with an H22 will be in the 13's; turbocharged in the 12's.

RX7's 93+ are expensive to maintain with the Apex seals and whatnot.
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EVO VIII http://www.automotosports.com/media/evo_viii_1200.wmv
9 sec WRX http://63.164.33.8/1esx/esx-9-second...subaru-wrx.wmv
clearly I am a WRX guy, and here is the WRX 1/4 mile registry
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/thomasck/Registry3.htm

heehehehe,,, I am know I am going to get ignored here again,,,, because I brought in too much of the reality shows that your so-call "rice" are fast too!!!
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Old 06-11-2003, 07:55 AM
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That ESX company is pretty cool they are kind of like Hennessey but for WRX's.
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240sx takes a SR20DET engine swap plus all the above mods.
It's quite obvious this guy knows nothing about 240sx's...
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Civic with an H22 will be in the 13's; turbocharged in the 12's.
That swap isn't worth it in my opinion.Seen it before and in reality it isnt all that fast.The guy who had it got beat by an automatic Firebird.

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http://www.automotosports.com/media/evo_viii_1200.wmv[/url]
9 sec WRX http://63.164.33.8/1esx/esx-9-second...subaru-wrx.wmv
how could that thing not do a wheelie?? hehe
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It's quite obvious this guy knows nothing about 240sx's...
yea i know, what can you do...
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You do know that they make V8 cars in Japan too, right?

I know you said not to count exotics, but these are considered "production cars" in Japan...

I am showing you what Japan is capable of if it decides to build V8 performance cars. (Most V8 cars in Japan are luxury cars)

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Here's a 1998 Nissan R390:



Specs:

DETAILS :

3.5-liter DOHC 32-valve V-8 twin-turbocharged
550hp @6800rpm and 470 Lb-ft @4400rpm
2420lbs

PERFORMANCE :

0-30mph in 1.2secnods
0-60mph in 3.3secnods
0-80mph in 6.0secnods
0-100mph in 9.7secnods
1/4 mile in 11.9secnods
Top speed : 207mph

...and that's just the street version...there are race-ready versions as well.

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Specs:

Layout: Mid-engine, rear-wheel drive
Monocoque: Carbon fiber and aluminum honeycomb monocoque
Engine: V8, twin turbocharged (Garrett)
Displacement: 3578 cc
Horsepower: 600 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 479 lb-ft. @ 6000 rpm
Gearbox: TTE six-speed sequential
Clutch: Sachs quad-plate carbon
Suspension: (f&r), Double wishbone, pushrod
Brakes: (f&r), Carbon ventilated discs, AP Racing six-pot calipers
Wheels: 18" Speedline forged magnesium
Tires: Michelin Radial
Length: 4840 mm
Width: 2000 mm
Height: 1125 mm
Wheelbase: 2850 mm
Front Overhang: 1000 mm
Rear Overhang: 990 mm
Track Front: 1600 mm
Track Rear: 1644 mm

This car does tens in the quarter.

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Short Specs:

mid engine
all wheel drive
RB26dett (nissan skyline gtr motor) @ 550hp
6pot front/4pot rear brakes
F/R aero diffusers

With it's weight, it runs low 11's and has supposed top-speed of 210MPH.

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As for non-exotic, production cars available domestically, I would have to recommend..............................my car.

My 1992 Nissan SE-R gives you more than 30MPG on the freeway, while being capable of out-running some V8's with it's mid-low 15-second runs BONE-STOCK. It cost me 1,800 dollars, and with the swap I've planned out, for another 3,000 dollars, you'll be running mid-low 13's, while still capable of getting 30+MPG. Another thousand, you'll be in the low 12's. Still not as efficient as say, spending 5grand total in a Mustang LX 5.0 to get it in the tens, but you'll have a higher sleeper effect with a boxy Sentra (if you get a quiet BOV) than a rumbling V8. Also, there is the reliability factor...
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Buy this one...money isn't an issue right Donham?
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1998 Nissan R390:




omg I almost popped wood aahhahaha 0-60 in 3 second range

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OKay people, show me a link or whatnot on what mods it takes to reliably get a 240sx in the mid-12's. Its a 2.0L turbo 4 (if you have a brain and get the SR) just like the dsms(not quite as strong as the 4G63T out of the factory) but a few hundred pounds lighter and rear wheel drive, so its 60ft times should get stomped by an AWD dsm, BUT its lighter weight and less drivetrain power loss should equal it out.
So I say it needs:
SR20DET(unless you want to rebuild a slower revving truck motor to handle boost)
Turbo upgrade
FMIC
550cc injectors and a fuel pump
Full 3" exhaust
Performance Clutch
Gauges(A/F, EGT, BOOST, oil pressure)
Apex'i SAFC

Now you tell me how I'm wrong with your SOHC 240sx.

"That swap isn't worth it in my opinion.Seen it before and in reality it isnt all that fast.The guy who had it got beat by an automatic Firebird."

OKAY, my friend just did this swap(H22a in 92HB) and it ran a 13.2 at Portland International Raceway first time out. Some tuning and it will be in the 12's. And what was the F-body running? and the H22 Civ?


Some DSM times.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/quartermilelist.php
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1998 Nissan R390:




omg I almost popped wood aahhahaha 0-60 in 3 second range

Here's another for your viewing pleasure!



...and another...



Lastly, here's the most affordable one I could find that runs:

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uhmm...

does this one count

1500hp hks drag supra that pulls low low 7'sec runs and is powered by a twin turbo v-8
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uhmm...

does this one count

1500hp hks drag supra that pulls low low 7'sec runs and is powered by a twin turbo v-8
Nah, not too impressive if it's a drag car, since we already have a 4-banger drag car here in the US that runs 5's...
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OKay people, show me a link or whatnot on what mods it takes to reliably get a 240sx in the mid-12's. Its a 2.0L turbo 4 (if you have a brain and get the SR) just like the dsms(not quite as strong as the 4G63T out of the factory) but a few hundred pounds lighter and rear wheel drive, so its 60ft times should get stomped by an AWD dsm, BUT its lighter weight and less drivetrain power loss should equal it out.
So I say it needs:
SR20DET(unless you want to rebuild a slower revving truck motor to handle boost)
Turbo upgrade
FMIC
550cc injectors and a fuel pump
Full 3" exhaust
Performance Clutch
Gauges(A/F, EGT, BOOST, oil pressure)
Apex'i SAFC

Now you tell me how I'm wrong with your SOHC 240sx.

"That swap isn't worth it in my opinion.Seen it before and in reality it isnt all that fast.The guy who had it got beat by an automatic Firebird."

OKAY, my friend just did this swap(H22a in 92HB) and it ran a 13.2 at Portland International Raceway first time out. Some tuning and it will be in the 12's. And what was the F-body running? and the H22 Civ?


Some DSM times.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/quartermilelist.php
It's still obvious you don't no squat about the 240sx.The SOHC engine was actually used in race cars before it was ever put in a truck.One of those race cars raced in the Rolex 24 in the early 90's.It used a carburated SOHC KA24 that put out over 300hp.

http://www.back-yard-productions.com/CONROY.htm
MODIFICATION LIST FOR THE 1991 NISSAN 240SX:

CUSTOM MILD STEEL EXHAUST MANIFOLD, TO4E / T3 TURBO, 3" CUSTOM DOWN PIPE, NISSAN SKYLINE EXHAUST SYSTEM, HKS WASTEGATE.

(4) Q45 INJECTORS, 2 1/2" INTAKE PLUMBING, CUSTOM FRONT MOUNT INTERCOOLER, GREDDY BLOW-OFF VALVE, 300ZX TWIN TURBO FUEL PUMP, ESSEX ADJUSTABLE FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR, BLITZ AIR FILTER.

STOCK ECU, MSD 6AL, APEXi AFC, GREDDY PROFEC-B BOOST CONTROLLER, 300ZX AIR FLOW METER.

1993 240SX LIMITED SLIP DIFFERENTIAL, ACT RACE PRESSURE PLATE & 4 PAD CLUTCH.

ACCESSORY LIST:

AUTOMETER 2" OIL PRESSURE GAUGE, 2" RICH/LEAN GAUGE, 2" 30 PSI. BOOST GAUGE. PAINTED CLUSTER.

SNIPER 17" WHEELS, TOYO TIRES 225/45/17 TIRES, TOKICO LOWERING SHOCKS, CUSTOM 2 1/2" LOWERING SPRINGS.




I've never seen an SR run that at 10lbs


And another thing...NEVER underestimate a SOHC KA24E...
 
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