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Old 05-29-2003, 12:40 PM
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can i use a mitsu tdo5 h in my 99 civic sohc. im lookin at it and the compressor side is on the opposite side but im thinkin it will be easier to run my ic becuz of that. some one who knows of this setup please help me
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The TD05H is a Talon/Laser tubo and will therefor have an exhaust flange made to fit the exhaust manifold of the Talon/Laser. This flange will not fit your Civic without significant cutting, welding, and fabricating. It can be done, but it is very tricky and if you have to ask how to do it...DON'T. Turbocharging a car is fairly tricky and shouldn't be done by amateurs...if you do decide to do it, I warned you. That in mind, here are a couple of tips.
1) Figure out where everything has to go, then modify the manifold flange to accomidate the turbo position.
2) The turbo (when installed) must be above the oil pan, as the turbo is gravity drained and must drain into the oil pan. It is possible to have a turbo below the oil pan but this requires tricky engineering.
3) Find someone who can weld well and have them do the cutting and welding on your manifold...it requires special welding material.
4) Figure out how you are going to provide more fuel (when a turbo is installed you must be able to provide more fuel, your car wont be able to).

When this is figured out, post back with any more questions you may have.
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that slut could not have put it better. if i may say "good job slut"



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i already got it mounted on the manifold. the compressor side is on the opposite side of the tb and most of the time the compressor is on the same side i just need to get some piping from the compressor to the ic to the tb. im wondering what kind of piping was used.dam that was hard to explain.
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I'm sorry, I'm just amazed that someone would actually build a turbo kit with a turbo that's SMALLER than the 15G!! WTF??
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What side it is on doesn't matter.

PIPING
Compressor inlet piping can be pretty much any material, but it must be fairly stiff to avoid collapsing due to the pressure drop through the air filter.
Excellent: Mandrel bent metal piping
Good: PCV piping
Bad: Flex tubing

On the outlet side, the plumbing will be subjected to positive pressure, and must be able to handle it. The same three choices as on the inlet side are available, but if you are to choose PCV piping keep in mind that it is plastic and can melt if near any serious heat sources. Also, the positive pressure could easily rupture a flex tubes thin metal.
Excellent: Mandrel bent metal piping
Good: PCV piping
Bad: Flex tubing

Metal piping is difficult for an amateur to work with so I recomend PCV piping. PCV piping doesn't look as good as metal piping but it is easy to work with and readily available at most hardware stores. Above all, make sure everything is properly sealed so it can maintain pressure, any leaks will hurt performance.
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It's PVC not PCV pipe. And how can you say that metal pipe is excellent? It soaks up heat from the engine compartment and puts it into your engine, making less HP or maybe even cause detenation. What good is an intercooler if you are just going to heat the air back up???
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How many turbo system have you built? PVC will allow the charged air to heat as well. Heat permeates all materials, plastic more easily than metal. This isn't a thread about bashing people asshole, why come on if your going to insult my intelligence. I am offering my experience, if you have a differing opinion, POST IT don't bash what I have to say by countering it with trivial shit like "it's PVC not PVC pipe"...WHO CARES? Tell me, what would YOU use?
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I didn't say PVC was better. Silicon piping is best, it resists heat. It's what most turbo kit's tubing is made out of. I think it's silicon, I might not be thinking of the right word but I'm 90 percent sure.
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Your right, I completely forgot silicon, which is also very good but metal is often used and I haven't heard of any heat problems with it. Plus it looks better.
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The other downside to silicon is that it is damned expensive. I have seen some connectors for over 50$, I agree with the slut, metal looks better, especially with a good polish. Also, using the old 14b-tdo5h turbo from the 1st gen is a waste, its only good up to 250whp. (trust me I am the biggest dsm nut) If you were going to use a mitsu turbo, i personally would have gone with a big 16g or maybe even a 20g if you want to be the biggest badass.
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