Found a great site with tutorials and tips

[asaenz]

Take it for what its worth. This person draws dogs and stuff with graphite. These tips and techniques can definitely be used for graphite cars too, plus there are tips for illustrator and photoshop. I like the tut. on drawing free-hand ellipses.

http://www.sibleyfineart.com/

Click on studio tips.

al

[asaenz]

Oh one other thing. That stuff called blu-tack is suppose to be da bomb.
I am going to get some and try it out.

al

[ChopinPorkChop]

this is great because i just bought a big box of blu tac for modeling yesterday hahaha and that elipse technique is in the book im currently reading

ill tell you how the tac works when i get home today

[ChopinPorkChop]

oh this stuff is amazing!
you just make it into a cylinder and you can remove as much of the led as you want judging on your pressure and how many times you roll it, this stuff is amazingly cheap($1.00 canadian), i got a big pac that will last me about more than a year (the site tells me a ball will last for months and this has like 30 small balls in it. and the best part is.. you can find it anywhere, my product is called sure tac, i bought it at a small shop that has like kiddy arts but it wasnt even in the art section, it was in house utensils. So that tells you you will find it anywhere, in any dollar store pretty much..

i definatetly recomend this stuff

thnx again asaenz