Car decisions... MR2 or RX7

[TrizzyDizzy]

Hi folks, im going to be buying a new car shortly. Well ive been dreaming and dreaming, and i want either an NSX, M3, or Supra TT. Well i odnt have the money, lol. So im probably gonna settle for either an MR2 Turbo, or 93+ RX7. If i find either, i want them to have new engines in. Ive heard reliablitly of the RX7 over 100K is pretty iffy, and 3SGTEs are pretty expensive. So what do you think? any other suggestions?

[JekylandHyde]

The RX7s have a horrible rep for reliability at any mileage.

I bought my turbocharged mr2 at 180,000 miles with the original untouched motor in it. I have since modded it like crazy to nearly double the factory HP levels and it is still running strong at 192,000 miles.

As for the 3sgte being expensive, not sure what you call expensive.
You can buy a used 3sgte engine that is warranteed and guaranteed to have less than 50K miles on it for $1200.

I bought Hyde (my turbo car) for $1750. There are deals out there if you shop.

[TrizzyDizzy]

Ok Thanks, but i still want to get as many opinions as i can. What about performance? MR2s are just as good as rx7s? I know they can out handle them, but what about everything else?

[kaoru-tochiro]

Originally posted by JekylandHyde
The RX7s have a horrible rep for reliability at any mileage.

I bought my turbocharged mr2 at 180,000 miles with the original untouched motor in it. I have since modded it like crazy to nearly double the factory HP levels and it is still running strong at 192,000 miles.

As for the 3sgte being expensive, not sure what you call expensive.
You can buy a used 3sgte engine that is warranteed and guaranteed to have less than 50K miles on it for $1200.

I bought Hyde (my turbo car) for $1750. There are deals out there if you shop.

Is that your unbiassed opinion????? RX7 engines are so reliable that you can shove branches into the intake manifold and make mulch for yer grandma! They're expensive though. Get the mr2, it gives you the impression that youre riding in a Ferrari 308, kinda like the way an inflatable woman gives you the impression that you're with a real woman.

[wild willy]

Back in 94 I almost tradd the 2 for an RX7....I wish I would have. I like it better...it is faster....I think it is lighter. It has been a long time. I test drove it and remember thinking....this car will only get me into trouble...I kept the VERY SLOW MR2

[JekylandHyde]

Originally posted by wild willy
I kept the VERY SLOW MR2

The MR2 is what you make of it... yes, the RX7 is faster out of the box, but at what cost? There isn't a year of the last generetion RX7 that can even come close to matching the MR2s realiability.

The thing I love about the RX7 is the rarity...

Originally posted by kaoru-tochiro
Is that your unbiassed opinion?????

Who asked for an unbiased opinion? If you ask this kind of a question in an MR2 forum, it is logical to deduce that the opinions will be biased.

As for the rest of your post I can't imagine what the point is beyond entertaining yourself. Your post shows a lot of insight into your character. Thank you for showing us yourself so clearly.

As for the 308 comparison, there is none.
The turbo MR2 was faster stock than the 308... and the realiability, insurance and maintenance cost far exceed the 308.

I suspect that the set up on my car is faster than a 308 in everyway shape and form ....

I only raced one at an autocross once and I destroyed it by over 2 seconds.
As for the drag strip, I haven't seen one out there... and I am sure there are many reasons why.

[kaoru-tochiro]

Originally posted by JekylandHyde

Who asked for an unbiased opinion? If you ask this kind of a question in an MR2 forum, it is logical to deduce that the opinions will be biased.

As for the rest of your post I can't imagine what the point is beyond entertaining yourself. Your post shows a lot of insight into your character. Thank you for showing us yourself so clearly.

As for the 308 comparison, there is none.
The turbo MR2 was faster stock than the 308... and the realiability, insurance and maintenance cost far exceed the 308.

I suspect that the set up on my car is faster than a 308 in everyway shape and form ....

I only raced one at an autocross once and I destroyed it by over 2 seconds.
As for the drag strip, I haven't seen one out there... and I am sure there are many reasons why.

Bite me! You're just some poor sucka that wished for a 308 but could only afford an mr2!
Mr2 is less unreliable as the RX7!!

[JekylandHyde]

Originally posted by kaoru-tochiro
Mr2 is less unreliable as the RX7!!

That is a double negative. I am glad we agree that the MR2 is more realiable than the RX7.

Originally posted by kaoru-tochiro
Bite me! You're just some poor sucka that wished for a 308 but could only afford an mr2!

I sincerely wish you had the ability to step outside yourself and truly see how you present yourself to the world.

Where does your hate and sadness come from?

[NSXN8]

Unless you've got the $$$ stay far away from those RX7's. Its not just the reliability issue either, 'cause a good 3rd gen RX7 costs a lot to begin with, which i am sure you have probably noticed by now. A "GOOD" RX7 isn't far behind how much the Supra's are going for. Not too long ago, here locally, i saw an RX7 for sale, and half its body pannels were miss-alined, and this car was still going for over $14,000!!! Don't get me wrong, i love the RX7's looks and technology, but unless you've got the $$$$'s, it just isn't worth all the hassle; especially when you are so close to obtaining a Supra. In this situation, where money is a big issue, go for the MR2!!!!

Does the MR2 really out-handle the RX7???? I've never heard that one before.

[kaoru-tochiro]

Originally posted by JekylandHyde

Where does your hate and sadness come from?

This forum turned me bitter, people are so mean.

[JekylandHyde]

Originally posted by NSXN8
Does the MR2 really out-handle the RX7?.

I have no idea on this... but I can say from years of autocrossing, that when comparing performance between two cars it has much more to with the driver than the car.

Autocrossing is 75% driver, 20% tires and 5% car....

I suspect that properly modified MR2s and RX7s are very close.

[wild willy]

The MR2 is one of the best handling cars in the world...but, you have to know how to drive it properly.....I do not

[1ofthesedays]

the rx-7 has a 50/50 weight distribution and weighs about as much the the mr2 does so handling wise, i think they would be very close.

my sister's boyfriend has a modded 3rd gen rx-7. his first engine blew around 60-70k miles i think and his second engine is screwed also. both engines were raced though. the car doesnt even start anymore. he's taking it to a shop that specializes in rotary cars ater his daily driver is paid off. he's expecting to be charged around 4-5 grand to get it fixed. i love both cars (the rx-7 a little bit more) but if you dont know much about the rx-7, i suggest you get the mr2. i've been learning about both cars for over three years and if i had a chance to get either car, i'd pick the mr2. how's that for unbiased?

[Kaitou]

sorry to bring this back BUT.. it is necessary to say for the knowledge of the ppl on this board that the RX-7 as im sure all you know are rotary powered.... if any of you know anything about any car is that 99.9% of the cars on the road are powered by cylinders. most car junkies, gear heads what have you just dont know how to take care of the rotary engine... let alone the normal schmoe. the rx-7 is an awesome car the engine will out last a deisel, if taken care of properly. ive seen some well over 200kmi on the oem engine. never rebuilt never touched.. the turbos however were often rebuilt around 100kmi... so there you have it if you find an rx-7 then its probably not gonna be that great. but there are tons of shops who rebuild it for a decent price. think of a stupid girl who can hardly drive stick at tearing up the clutch and replacing it every 5000 miles.. its not a bad clutch just a stupid girl. same thing with the rotary.. you gotta take care of it, if you dont know how too then itll die... not becuase its bad, but cuz you're a retard.

[JekylandHyde]

Kaitou, please eloborate. How does one take care of a rotary?

Particulary in comparison to how one takes care of the more popular cylinders designed engines?

Pardon my ignorance, but I have never owned a rotary, so I am not aware of their special needs.