Gulf Orange

[carbuilder2002]

Can anyone clarify something for me, I think I have got is sorted out just need a second opinion.

On the 1995 Gilf cars there is the orange used on the wheels an as far as I can assertain a lighter orange used on the bodywork.

I think I have narrowed it down to two peugeot colours.

Burnt Orange for the wheels.
Formula Orange for the bodywork

Can anyone confirm or disprove this?

Additionaly got Peugeot Pulsar Blue for the bodywork also.

That just leaves the silver to identify, difficult as it seems very inconsistent in pictures.

[DocGTR]

Drawing conclusion on the colors by using (old) pictures taken in differing lighting conditions is not an easy task even alone, but differing materials on which the paint is applied and the possibly differing paint thicknesses makes it even harder.

The orange stripe on the body may seem lighter due its thickness as it is only a thin tape on the silver colored part of the body, so the silver background also reflects some of the light and makes the stripe appear lighter. On the other hand, the rims are covered with thick orange paint coat and so reflects much more the real color (and not any of the silver), and so it appears darker than the thin orange tape, even they were both the same color.

Also the material they are applied on may affect slightly the appearance of the color in different lighting, but part of it is due the roughness of the surface, how it absorbs or reflects the light. Same thin thickness of orange paint coat on a carbon fiber and on magnesium alloy may appear as two different shades of color in some type of lighting, and also in some other, as the same color. It all comes down to physics and the nature of light (waves) and how the receiver gets it, whether it's an eye or a camera (as well its physics and limitations, and many times also the limitations of the colors of the printing equipment as we talk of pictures from the 1990's, and later the scanners etc.).

I don't know did this help anything, but I wouldn't be so sure they used different colors for body and rims, at least on purpose.

[cabrio92]

Hello carbuilder,

I can't help, just confirmed on #15R the wheels seem stronger but the material is different, so it explains maybe this fact ?

You plan to paint your future GTR Gulf colors..?

Phil

[hurstg01]

I agree with Doc, it's going to be hard taking references from pictures with shading and contrasting variances

Good luck though, what are you doing?

[carbuilder2002]

Tried contacting Gulf but all they could give me was a RAL number which I suspect it what they use on their logo, I am sure I have heard Burn Orange used before somewhere but it seems rather too red and the Ut models are not reliable because colours on a model are usually toned down anyway.
No its for my large scale model, unless I aquired an ex Gulf car I would not repaint it in a colour scheme it never wore.

[Le Man]

Originally Posted by carbuilder2002

Tried contacting Gulf but all they could give me was a RAL number which I suspect it what they use on their logo, I am sure I have heard Burn Orange used before somewhere but it seems rather too red and the Ut models are not reliable because colours on a model are usually toned down anyway.
No its for my large scale model, unless I aquired an ex Gulf car I would not repaint it in a colour scheme it never wore.

Show us what you have made so far and I shall let you have the paint codes

[carbuilder2002]

Give me time to do a photo shoot when I get some free time, just basically got the chassis done so far.

[carbuilder2002]

What I am looking for is a good representation of 1/6th scale carbon fibre, any ideas.

[Le Man]

Originally Posted by carbuilder2002

What I am looking for is a good representation of 1/6th scale carbon fibre, any ideas.

The finest carbon weave I,ve seen, was used by McLaren on the steering column tube and column stalk covers. It,s about 1mm wide strands in a satin weave.

Look forward to seeing your pics.

[carbuilder2002]

I bet that is nigh on impossible to source lol

[Peloton25]

Here's an example of what you are probably looking for:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=9783

I've used some before and it has a pretty fine weave to it. 100mm wide is a limitation, but there must be other sources with larger pieces available.

>8^)
ER

[Le Man]

Originally Posted by carbuilder2002

I bet that is nigh on impossible to source lol

If you look through the site that Erik has linked you too. They do 1K dry cloth as well. Just depends on the weave you are after, also dry cloth is difficult to cut and drape, plus fidely to keep in straight lines compared to prepeg.

[carbuilder2002]

how do I insert a pcture into my reply?

[carbuilder2002]

You can see where I am comming from with two shades of orange if you enlarge pelotons footer and compare the stripe with the wheel.

[Le Man]

Originally Posted by carbuilder2002

how do I insert a pcture into my reply?

Use www.imageshack.com its simple and free to use.

Yes, the 95 wheel colour is a RAL number and the tape line is from the 3M graphic sheet range. But there is a colour difference, as inks are used. Same goes for the Gulf logo.

BTW, the silver is actually "champagne"

Andy Bee should be able to confirm all this, as he did all the graphic design on the Gulf GTR,s.