a sol or a CIVIC?

[B16EJ1]

Originally posted by 94SolGrl


If you would do YOUR homework, you would know that the original del Sol was named the CR-X del Sol and that the CR-X has the same engine, as well. Why is the sol on the same chassis as the civic? Duh because they're in the same size class. Japanese del Sols are all labeled as CR-X del Sols (see below image). Still don't believe me? give me a sec to find my article from the June 1992 Car and Driver Magazine about the "Crackerjack new CR-X that loses its top".... wow! They're talking about the DEL FUCKING SOL

So basically you're basing your arguement on the simple fact of " japanese badging " Not on all the FACTS I've previously stated. Oh and the CR-X and Del sol in the same size class as a Civic??? The Accord is closer to the size class of a Civic than the CR-X and Del sol. Niether the Civic or Accord are two seaters. So YOUR theory is thrown out the window. The Civic came out before the CRX and when the CRX came to design it was based of the Civic design in overall appearance as well as what I've already listed.Oh yah and your little Car and Driver article.......... SO WHAT!!! When you use better comparisons, like I did, such as chassis, suspension, engine, and overall engineering to prove your point you might be a bit more believable. Try again youngin.

[94SolGrl]

I'm not arguing with stupidity. The CR-X is it's own car, the CR-X del Sol is a newer generation of the CR-X. The CR-X and del Sol were named along the civic line cause everyone knew what the civic was, and USDM people wanted the association. Ever wonder why in 95-96 they dropped the "civic" from the del Sol name? And considering that Japan is the SOURCE for all this stuff, it's custom to go by their names for stuff.

And don't call me youngin. A nickname implies that we get along, which until you pull your head outta your ass we don't.

[B16EJ1]

Call me all the names you want. You know that I'm right. Badging is all it is. I'm am not saying a Del sol is a Civic for the simple fact that they put it in the damn name. The reason I say it's a Civic is because that's what it is. Oh and I don't refer to you as " youngin" as a nick name. I refer to you as that because of the language you seem to have to use, your immature sense of engineering, and your pathetic arguements. I'm done with you........YOUNGIN!!!!

[94SolGrl]

[Moppie]

There is far to much BS and flaming going on in this thread for it to continue, and far to much false information for me not to correct it.


The Del Sol was a replacment for the CRX, but was aimed at a slightly differnt market. In Japan on some models it retianed the CRX name, and the del sol was used to defferniate models. (there was a hard top known as the CRX, and the Targa was known as the CRX Del Sol)
For no known reason the CRX name was eventualy dropped, but showed up as a small sticker on some models on the back of the car, denoting the Del Sol as a Del Sol crx.
The sticker was possibly dealer applied, or like a lot of English use in Japanese cultrure had absolutly no meaning other than it looked pretty.


The CRX was orginaly badged as the Civic Sports, since the 1st gen CRX was nothing more than a rebodied 3g Civic.
The name only lasted for one or two years of production when the CRX name took over, its thought that CRX evolved from the cars prototype name, and its possible it appreared on show cars in Japan before its release.
The 2g CRX based on the 4g Civic platform was much the same, simply a rebodied Civic, although the differnces where a little greater, and while none of the body or interior parts were interchangable, all the suspension, brakes and driveline were.
Both the 1st and 2nd gen CRX were lighter than the Civic, and were generaly fitted with stiffer suspension, and in some cases such as the SiR got extra touchs like leather trim on the seats.
As a result the Early CRXs are generaly worth more, and when sharing the same engine as the Civic are generaly faster.
The 3g CRX or Del Sol, is based on the 5th Gen Civic, and after 95 became in a sense its own model when the 5th gen Civic was replaced by the 6th gen, but the Del Sol Continued to be manufactored on the 5th gen Civic base.
At this point in the cars life it suddenly gained a lot of weight, and its target market changed from those looking for a small fast FWD sports car, to those looking for something that looked like a small fast sports car, but wasnt.
In its most basic trim in Japan the 3g CRX (del sol) was slower than the most basic Civic, and the same for the SiR versions of both.
The Del Sol ended up being quite a bit heavier than the Civic, and although it shares the same basic chassis, suspension and drive line the restyle of the body changed quite a lot of the cars basic structure, and although the car is basicly a rebodied 5gen Civic, there were greater changes than between the 1st and 2nd gen CRX and the respective Civics they were based on.
The only advantage the Del Sol offered over the Civic was it looked prettier. There was no longer any performance advantage from weighing less, infact the car weighed depending on model at least 100kgs more.
Almost all of this weight comeing from the indrodutction of the Targa top, and the strengthening required. The cars with an Automatic Targa weighed even more.

In 95-96 when the Civic changed over to the 6th gen the Del Sol was left as it was, based on the 5th gen. The Civic gained weight again, as it has in every change of generation, but the Del Sol did not, as a result it again got a slight edge over the Civic in terms of performance.
But only a slight one, and its very dependant on which model you are compareing. Since in Japan both were avliable with everything from a 1300cc Twin Carb engine to the B16a its a bit of a silly comparison.


In the US the Del Sol was however fitted with the B16a for most of its production life, while the Civic didnt recieve it untill 2000, and then in only in the heavy Si Coupe.
As a result when talking about stock cars the Del Sol has always had a performance edge over the Civic.
Unforunatly since the 5g Civic is still lighter a B16a engine swap will make it faster. (especialy since the JDM engine so commonly used has a hp advantage over the US B16a in the Del Sol)


To sum up neither is really better than the other, both have advantages and disadvantages to ownership, and since both are underneath essentialy the same car, both have an equal ablity to be modified