A letter everyone should read

[Prelewd]

Originally posted by Milliardo


Yes, because for more than 20 years my country was also under Martial Law (I was a kid then for most of that time, but I was still aware), and our lives were actually very normal. In fact, it is not much different from today. So, yes, I can say that without fear of contradiction.

Martial Law isn't the situation in Iraq.

[Prelewd]

Originally posted by taranaki


why do they seem to live in fear?Because that's what we are told.The people who run the media get very upset if their reporters dont cover their stories in the way that they are told to[case in point,Peter Arnett].You have to ask yourself,where is this information coming from,and who wants it presented that way.If the truth is that most Iraqis don't live in fear,then your second question answers itself.

If more countries are reporting this than the US, doesn't it hold some validity? You don't just pass something like this off as US propoganda.

[taranaki]

Originally posted by Prelewd


If more countries are reporting this than the US, doesn't it hold some validity? You don't just pass something like this off as US propoganda.

Of course ithas some validity,but when it gets chanted like a mantra every time you hear Saddam's name mentioned,it is clear that someone wants people to associate the guy with nothing else.There are many cruel and incompetent regimes around the world,but nobody's interested in doing squat about it,or even reminding us about them.

[Prelewd]

Originally posted by taranaki



Of course ithas some validity,but when it gets chanted like a mantra every time you hear Saddam's name mentioned,it is clear that someone wants people to associate the guy with nothing else.There are many cruel and incompetent regimes around the world,but nobody's interested in doing squat about it,or even reminding us about them.

What else do you associate him with?

"oh that Saddam, he loves his kittens..." <- Not me.

[dolla_bill0913]

Just one quick question, for all the people not from The United States of America, WHAT HAS YOUR PRESIDENT DONE LATELY, THAT HAS HAD A MAJOR IMPACT ON THE COUNTRY OR THE WORLD????

[Milliardo]

Originally posted by Prelewd
Martial Law isn't the situation in Iraq.

A military dictatorship, by virtue of reason and common sense, is in a state of Martial Law. Though my country back in the 70s was in the hands of a civilian President, the military held much sway and enforced the law to the fullest then. So yes, the situation in Iraq under Saddam is really Martial Law.

[1985_BMW318i]

A military dictatorship, by virtue of reason and common sense, is in a state of Martial Law.

Which is exactly what Iraq has been in for many years. Yet you continue to support Saddam vrs Bush, Well guess what, Saddam lost and Bush won. This war may not be over but its pretty obvious who won already. Nobody messes with this country. Like it or not we saw evil and we're eradicating it!

[Cbass]

Originally posted by 1985_BMW318i


Which is exactly what Iraq has been in for many years. Yet you continue to support Saddam vrs Bush, Well guess what, Saddam lost and Bush won. This war may not be over but its pretty obvious who won already. Nobody messes with this country. Like it or not we saw evil and we're eradicating it!

That's good for a laugh... Dubya saw oil, and he's going for it... he doesn't care how many people die on either side.

Iraq never did anything to the US, so they haven't in any way messed with your country. The US has not won yet, and this is going to take quite some time, with a lot of casualties. Saddam knew this, Bush knew this.

Do things really have to be broken down into "good" and "evil" before you can understand them? The concept of evil is ridiculous, and is only used to appeal to simple minds.

[TexasF355F1]

I think the war will cost way more than any profits we could make from oil. I think the $80 billion budget is a little short and in reallity will run into the hunreds of billions.

[Cbass]

Originally posted by TexasF355F1
I think the war will cost way more than any profits we could make from oil. I think the $80 billion budget is a little short and in reallity will run into the hunreds of billions.

You're one for two. The US has already overrun their $80 billion budget for the war, and it is expected to fall between $200 and $600 billion...

The profits from the oil alone are expected to be around $3 trillion. This doesn't take into account the advantages the US will have in the global economy once they control the largest reserves of low sulphur oil in the world.

[Milliardo]

Originally posted by 1985_BMW318i
Yet you continue to support Saddam vrs Bush, Well guess what, Saddam lost and Bush won. This war may not be over but its pretty obvious who won already.

Funny, I have to say over and over that I do not support Saddam, yet I do not agree with how Bush is doing it, either. And I have also pointed out early on that America will win this war. That's a given. But winning a war by bullets and shells is one thing; winning the approval and support of people another, and that is where Bush is losing.

[Pick]

Originally posted by Cbass


That's good for a laugh... Dubya saw oil, and he's going for it... he doesn't care how many people die on either side.

Iraq never did anything to the US, so they haven't in any way messed with your country. The US has not won yet, and this is going to take quite some time, with a lot of casualties. Saddam knew this, Bush knew this.

Do things really have to be broken down into "good" and "evil" before you can understand them? The concept of evil is ridiculous, and is only used to appeal to simple minds.

And, once again, you are so wrong...... We are having to systematically dismantle every house or building we come across because the eye of the world is on us. We can't get away with killing anybody, not even soldiers , so we have to fight a "war" of sanctions and restrictions.

ANd I guess the fact that Saddam disliked the U.S., harbored terrorists that dislike the U.S., had weapons to do whatever he wanted with, and didn't comply with an organization that protects weak countries, that that isn't enough. He already used weapons on his own people, what is to keep him from using them on us?

[Pick]

Originally posted by Milliardo


Funny, I have to say over and over that I do not support Saddam, yet I do not agree with how Bush is doing it, either. And I have also pointed out early on that America will win this war. That's a given. But winning a war by bullets and shells is one thing; winning the approval and support of people another, and that is where Bush is losing.

Wrong, Bush has all the support he needs.

[pontiactrac]

Originally posted by taranaki


w00t w00t,let's bash Clinton.


Nixon was just used to illustrate my point that the American people would probably object to being 'liberated' from a bad President by a foreign power just as much as some of the Iraqis appear to.

Clinton is irrelevant.You didn't like him,you voted him out,that's your business,end of story.If some foreign nation had decided that they didn't like Clinton and tried to take him out,I very much doubt that you would have let them.

Actually, i think that Nixon is way more irrelevant than Clinton, Clinton is still opening his big mouth about every topic, and his wife, there is even a bigger problem. Clinton has way more to do with anything that led up to today than Nixon. Personally, i dont know why either was mentioned in the first place though. And by the way, the soldier that wrote that is braver than any of us and i respect him with the utmost degree for his service and love of his country and its cause.

[dolla_bill0913]

Originally posted by dolla_bill0913
Just one quick question, for all the people not from The United States of America, WHAT HAS YOUR PRESIDENT DONE LATELY, THAT HAS HAD A MAJOR IMPACT ON THE COUNTRY OR THE WORLD????

Come on you guys couldnt of overlooked this! But then again, why would you want to waste any time talking about your own country when your too busy bad mouthing Bush. I have another question, If it doesnt concern your country and doesnt have an effect on you, why should your opinion count for anything? Bush is my president not yours, so if you got problems with the way things are in the world why dont you write a letter to your president!