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Old 01-11-2006, 11:53 AM   #106
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Re: WIP: 2CV “Rock and Roll-Bar”

I am amazed ! Your skills are beyond words ! Keep up te good work and don't forget the towbar

By the way, perhaps you want to make a miniature replica of my 2cv when it's finally finished (expected somewhere in 2027) ? I can give you the correct standardised numbers of the colours and all the other info you'll need !
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Old 01-16-2006, 04:26 PM   #107
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Re: WIP: 2CV “Rock and Roll-Bar”

UPDATE 17.01.2006

I managed to squeeze a little plastic time this weekend so here’s a bit of an update. This is starting to come together and I’m getting nervous that I don’t bodge it in the home straight (no self-deprication intended )

I spent the time on detailing, detail painting and weathering in the engine bay.

As I began looking at the alternator and comparing it to some reference pictures, I realised that it is actually very wrong. Where in the real part there is a grove the kit part has a raised edge. There is nothing I can do about this (Gridgirl, you need to talk to your lathe owning friend about this highly visible part – it would look brilliant in metal!!) but I felt that at least it would benefit from some bolt heads so I took a leaf out of the spruemaster’s (quadzero) book and sliced and glued some on which were then detail painted in titanium gold.



The carburettor was detailed with the Titanium gold and then given a wash



The air filter was also detailed.
In ref pictures you can see a hose clamp which I was going to make with BMF but then I thought that nothing looks more like metal than real metal, so I took some sprue from a PE fret, polished it slightly, bent it to shape and CA in place.



The engine was washed with Mr. MPWR and my awesome oil filter was installed.





At this point I started to get a bit carried away with myself.
I came up with a wonderful idea of how to make a simple screen wash bottle overly complicated .

The idea was to try and paint it in such a way to create an illusion of water being visible through the translucent plastic .
What I did was to first prime the part with white primer, mask off the top half of the part and spray the lower half with a darker colour – I chose Tamiya Buff.



This was then sprayed all over with a thinned out matt white.

I kind of feel that the idea was interesting but the final result didn’t work too well. Might be worth experimenting with on further builds though to find a good color/mix set up. The bottle will of course be detailed with a hose later.




Next a came a more interesting idea (for me, anyway) which came about more or less by accident while I was detail painting and weathering the radiator.

I want the engine bay to be pretty mucky and gunky and the radiator especially will be exposed to all the elements – after all, it is in the “front line”.

After it was painted black, I took my “sable” toothpick and lightly scratched everything with matte aluminium and followed this with a wash of Rustall and then Deadflat (very interesting stuff, that!)




I had originally intended to put some mesh in front of teh fan as can be seen in reference pictures but everything I had was much too fine. However, as Murphy’s law would have it, I had to fix the kitchen tap and the filter dropped out of it in a million pieces and look what I found!!



Whoa! Looks good! Soaked for 30 seconds in Mr. Muscle descaler and whadda ya got?



I primed the larger weave grill, sprayed it with auto gloss black and then scratched it back to bare metal in places. This is the finished assembly which took 20 minutes in total to make and actually looks worse in the photo than in real life (normally, it’s the other way round  ).



Here’s a dry fit of some of the parts – I can already see that I am going to have a problem with radiator/engine/body fit






Thanks for looking.

PS: Gridgirl, I enjoyed myself this weekend and think that I did good
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Old 01-16-2006, 04:48 PM   #108
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Re: WIP: 2CV “Rock and Roll-Bar”


this just made my whole day. i love what you are doing with this. you really show off skills that the average "joe lunchbox" can learn and apply to their models but you really shine with how refined and how far you take it. this is top notch.
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Old 01-17-2006, 01:20 AM   #109
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My god, Saint Kluz you done some strange miracles awesome, Steve
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Re: WIP: 2CV “Rock and Roll-Bar”

Another terrific update.

I'm sure you can do something with the alternator. Try cutting it in half in the center of the raised ridge with a razor saw. Flat sand the halves until the ridge is removed, then cut a thin (looks to be about 0.030"?) slice of sprue of an apropriate diameter for the winding section. Then just glue it together like a sandwich.

The grille on the fan intake looks spot on. As far as the fan, though- I haven't done the research, but I would have guessed it would have been made of moulded plastic instread of metal? Just a thought.

Wow, by the time my oil filter looks that beat up, I figure it must be time for an oil change!

The rusted engine mount is great looking. Rust-all, huh? May have to try that.

Keep it up, it's coming together!
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Old 01-19-2006, 09:52 AM   #111
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Re: WIP: 2CV “Rock and Roll-Bar”

UPDATE: 19.01.2006

3 hours work this morning from start to finish
I think this is called the brake master cylinder.
This is ABSOLUTELY the LAST part I am making for this car (apart from the tow-bar I promised 2CV )


This is what the kit part looks like. It will probably be fairly visible in the finished engine bay.



This is what the original looks like in my reference picture:



Started of with a piece of 2,5x2,5mm styrene rod(?) which I stuck in my Unimat and turned to get the round end.



I stuck on a piece of hex rod to simulate something or other.



Carved 2 cubes of the same square rod to make the reservoirs.
2 slices of different diameter round rod to make the closing cap.
Another bit of hex rod stuck on there for a bit of extra detail



Painting.
Cylinder base is Alclad2 Duralumin, reservoirs are painted a mix of Tamiya XF Buff + X1 and the cap is a mix of XF green + X1.
I didn’t play with trying to "hint" at brake fluid inside this time



The finished part.
It will be hit with Mr. MPWR and some weathering dusts etc later.
A piece of brass wire will represent the brake line coming out of the cylinder.





Now for the funny bit – I think I’ve made it slightly over scale and it might not fit in the engine bay
I had fun making it, though!!

MPWR:
I think you got me there with the fan :blush: although reference material is divided on this issue. I have some pictures where the fan is very clearly white plastic and other photos where it could be either. I would agree with you that from a factory fit point of view they were probably made of plastic but then, there is artistic licence to be considered

I had to beat the oil filter up so you can’t see how crappy it is!

Thanks for looking and gladly hear any comments as always.
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This is ABSOLUTELY the LAST part I am making for this car
Never say this is the last part! There's always room for more detail!

Looks like a great improvement on the kit part. Too clean though! Spilled brake fluid has a way of making things filthy. More Mr. MPWR!

So let's see it next to the kit part, or in the engine bay!

Machined styrene- now why have I never tried that? Must be nice to simply cement other bits of styrene onto a machined part....

Looking forward to seeing it all with the bodywork (what's left of it) installed.

I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking at, but should the port between the reservoir lobes have another line leading to the rear brakes?



"...but Jaques- ve don' need ze rear onez! Ve only have ze duex horsepower!"
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Re: WIP: 2CV “Rock and Roll-Bar”

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"...but Jaques- ve don' need ze rear onez! Ve only have ze duex horsepower!"


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I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking at, but should the port between the reservoir lobes have another line leading to the rear brakes?
BINGO!! Thanks for that!! I think you must be right.
Damn, am I glad I stuck that extra bit of plastic on there!! Ufff!
I didn't know what the heck it was for but I would be mightily pissed right now if I hadn't

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Must be nice to simply cement other bits of styrene onto a machined part...
Sure is! Truth is my Unimat is actually duffed and it can't cope with aluminium any more. Trying slowly to fugure out what's wrong (actually, I know - I took it apart )

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So let's see it next to the kit part, or in the engine bay!
I shall try and oblige - promise not to laugh?
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Old 01-19-2006, 12:37 PM   #114
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again, nice skills with that scratch building.
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absolutely stunning
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Old 01-19-2006, 02:22 PM   #116
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Re: WIP: 2CV “Rock and Roll-Bar”

Looking good, I like all the detail your adding. Can't wait to see the finished car.
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Can't wait to see the finished car.
Me too!!

Thanks guys for folowing me with this build
I really hope to have it 90% finished by the end of next week.
I have a secret plan for this weekend, though - a kind of modeling holiday
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Simply amazing!
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Re: WIP: 2CV “Rock and Roll-Bar”

W/E are my worst modelling time: I've a lot of free time but filled by noisy childs, barking "turkey", boring parents, friends that seems coming here every time I put the first decal in the water, R/C waiting for a drop of nitro and offended cold barbecue waiting for some steaks and "salsiccia": our WE and the entire wordl could be better if everyone modelling something
oh s**t is just friday evening! only a night before the WE

Well, Steve, I promise to post nothing until monday, so looks like you pick your duecavalli to the contest so far
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W/E are my worst modelling time: I've a lot of free time but filled by noisy childs, barking "turkey", boring parents, friends that seems coming here every time I put the first decal in the water, R/C waiting for a drop of nitro and offended cold barbecue waiting for some steaks and "salsiccia": our WE and the entire wordl could be better if everyone modelling something
oh s**t is just friday evening! only a night before the WE

Well, Steve, I promise to post nothing until monday, so looks like you pick your duecavalli to the contest so far

Au contraire mon chere ami!!!
My weekend is going to be 110% modeling (wife and Alex away for a week, 2 oldest girls with friends and my Turkey loves sleeping under my feet in my workshop ).
I just meant Jean Paul is going into the box for the weekend and I'm going to do SOMETHING ELSE!! HURRAH!!!!
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