M3 Opponents

[vortech]

the M3 is a better handling vehicle than the M5. So yes, I'm not really impressed with the S4 doing a number the M5. Wait till the upcoming M3s and M5s----precious Audi is trying to do a number with their new updated sports coupes on carry over models of BMW---lets see them up against the upcoming pussycats.

[Deakins]

Originally posted by vortech
the M3 is a better handling vehicle than the M5. So yes, I'm not really impressed with the S4 doing a number the M5. Wait till the upcoming M3s and M5s----precious Audi is trying to do a number with their new updated sports coupes on carry over models of BMW---lets see them up against the upcoming pussycats.

This could go on forever. You do know the C6 A6 will be introduced soon, don't you?

[Marvelous3]

Driving a muscle car(pushrod) and driving a Euro car (cams) is completely different

[vortech]

Marvelous---thanks for enlightening me----yea you are right, us pushrod guys are to FUC%IN stupid to know the difference in driving a euro car. Personally the euro market can tailor to its execs type---and people who won't go to the aftermarket to tinker with their toys----but just remember-----its the pushrod-----that inspired the Euro boys-----not the other way around.

I know about the upcoming Audi, but we'll see what it actually does on the road. Ford is saying the GT will outperform the 03 Viper----but I still have to see it to beleive it.

[crayzayjay]

Originally posted by Deakins


So that is why the M3 and the M5 get their ass kicked by the S4 and the RS6, respectively?

what a ridiculous post. Audi havent made an involving car to drive in 2 decades. I can understand why u think the RS6 kicks the M5's ass, as it has more hp, but then that shows how narrow minded you are. The M5 is infinitely superior in every other aspect of performance, handling, steering feel, EVERYTHING.

to suggest the S4 kicks the M3's ass is the most absurd thing i think ive heard in my entire life. the point is audi performance cars are lifeless uninvolving, and uninteresting when compared to most performance cars out there. if thats your thing then fine, but dont claim to enjoy the challenge of driving car, cos with an audi there just plain isnt much...

[Deakins]

I never said the RS6 is more fun to drive, but it's faster than the M5.
And the same goes for the S4, well, not straight ahead, but around a track.

[vortech]

but the RS6 and S4 only outhandle the M3 in your dreams. The M3 is still superior in handling----like I said before it even exceeds the performance of the M5. You are falling in love with horsepower numbers-----and thats not the basis of what I was arguing. Don't be foolish about what you are claiming-----Crazyjay knows what has already been shown to be fact.

[vortech]

there just aren't too many stock cars for mass production that can handle a road course like an M3.

[Driven1965]

Originally posted by vortech
Marvelous---thanks for enlightening me----yea you are right, us pushrod guys are to FUC%IN stupid to know the difference in driving a euro car. . . .

Umm, doesn't your American Beast have DOHC's?

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[Driven1965]

somehow that link didn't post right- try this

http://www.fasterfitness.com/cobra

[vortech]

in aprevious post he was putting down the pushrod guys----I'm abig fan of the pushrods.

[vortech]

the euro fans think because their engines incorporate newer technology---that are superior then what American car makers use. I guess some of these euro guys never heard of the 427 engines and the Hemis. I guess those engines were just slop served up to the public.

[vortech]

if that mustang owner upgraded the rods and rings-----cause I didn't see any mention of an intercooler-------and the 15psi----is just too much for the stock rods & rings. But maybe he did and just didn't mention it.

[Driven1965]

Originally posted by vortech
if that mustang owner upgraded the rods and rings-----cause I didn't see any mention of an intercooler-------and the 15psi----is just too much for the stock rods & rings. But maybe he did and just didn't mention it.

rings and pistons- yes. rods- no. True Blue tells me the rods aren't a weak link in the mod motors- aren't they the ones that are broken and re-welded at the factory for greater strength?

[vortech]

they are actually known as the powder coated rods. They are actually one of the first things to go when forced induction comes into play. It happened on my 1st 01 motor. If he is still running that kind of boost and the engine is still sound------then lol-----I think we have come across a divine miracle. The rods have failed on owners just from running 6000rpms and up. But I guess, you can always have an exception to the rule.