type-s vs. modded civic si

[SBallerk2]

[SBallerk2]

who WON???? Si Or RSX-S

[SBallerk2]

signal...Look at my reply (teg,civic,etc.) etc.= accord's, hatchbacks,del sol's, non- so called SUPER CAR's!!!

also there's no RSX-S with 220HP in here in U.S. unless u imported ur self and if they was I wouldn't think it would have more Torque then a Prelude!!

also guys Look up the defention for Prelude and u'll c y it was Honda's/Acura's first thing for everything the name says it alone...

[mmont0]

Looks like no one cares about your points since you keep insulting everyone. And I have to say that there are no "morons" here. So why do you keep posting in the RSX area? Why don't you go back and talk with your prelude buddies?

SBallerk2 = Prelude elitist

[SBallerk2]

I like busting people's BALLS!!!

[BLU CIVIC]

did he race yet?

[SiGNAL748]

Originally Posted by SBallerk2

signal...Look at my reply (teg,civic,etc.) etc.= accord's, hatchbacks,del sol's, non- so called SUPER CAR's!!!

also there's no RSX-S with 220HP in here in U.S. unless u imported ur self and if they was I wouldn't think it would have more Torque then a Prelude!!

also guys Look up the defention for Prelude and u'll c y it was Honda's/Acura's first thing for everything the name says it alone...

When the hell did i mention ANYTHING about supercars?

Also, there's no Prelude with 220hp in the US unless you imported it neither!

WTF ARE YOU TRYING TO GET AT? Its just the same as the RSX Type-R Motor!! !You have to IMPORT your LUDE motor to GET the FULL JDM 220HP. You have proven in NO way, that the PRELUDE is BETTER in ANY ASPECT than the RSX'S.

For every Prelude, theres an RSX Counterpart.

Prelude Si is to RSX Base = 160hp
Prelude VTEC is to RSX-S = 200hp
Prelude (JDM) Type-S is to RSX (JDM) Type-R = 220hp

Also, the JDM K20A Type-R Motor is BETTER, than the JDM h22 type-S in many aspects, with the TORQUE, almost the SAME.

JDM K20A Type-R:
220 hp
158 lbs/ft

JDM H22A Type-S:
220hp
163 lbs/ft

With the K20 being even LIGHTER than any B-SERIES motor, also coming with a 6 SPEED TRANNY.

The "Prelude"s name signifies NOTHING. It was NOT the first to have a DOHC, it was NOT the first to have a DOHC VTEC.

[RSX-S777]

Originally Posted by SBallerk2

I like busting people's BALLS!!!

Problem is, you suck at it. Your posts are worthless and barely coherent. Learn the language, learn how to type and get your facts straight- then I might develop a shred of respect for you. As it stands now, we all see you as a fucking joke. I would strongly suggest you stop posting stupid, inflammatory bullshit before I have you unceremoniously banned. Try me and see what happens...I'm fully sick of you at this point.

[crazy_canuck]

^ Yeah, that.

Man, have you EVER looked at the facts? The heavier car is going to lose, engine wise they're similar but the lude doesn't have a 6 Speed.

And why are you attacking signal? He's actualling looking at the facts and being unbiased.

[SBallerk2]

6-Speed's 5-speed's doesn't make difference in that case Truck's would be the fastest car's in the WORLD and we all know how they slow down TRAFFIC!!!...notice I said Base Prelude....not Si meaning a Base Prelude is from 97-01 with 190-200 HP from auto to stick and vary from years...97-99 190 auto 195 stick 200 stick 00-01 and 190 for auto....how is the Base RSX even close to the lude's power?????


also we can easly buy a Lude Type S motor (with a aftermarket here in the US for that engine) while there's no MArket for a Type R motor for the RSX to buy here in the US or parts cause car's to brake DOWN u know also would u want to swap a motor with probally less then 10 k on it with a Type S label on it???


this guy 6-Speed's boo whoooooo!!! : guess what It won't TAKE ME MORE THEN 3 GEARS to take u DOWN ON MY LUDE!!!


this stock TALK o.K. u guys win RSX-S is Acura's best car (non NSX) boo whooo let's give them a moment of slience

guess what my car is 10 years older with the SAME or better power (Torque) sure my car weight's more so i'm CHUBBY boo whooo what does a couple of thousands pounds do to the same power with more Torque to make up for it...?? yeah keep wishing for my Torque when I pull ahead of u in the long run...cause that's what a REAL RACE IS then will c who's car is really BETTER for the money and overall!! so now who wants to take my LUDE!!!!

GUESS WHAT UR ENGINE is OLD NEWS don't u feel stupid for buying old NEWS for 23k SHIT I know I WOULD!!!! u just bought a smaller engine with a Type S emblem who's the RICER!!!!

LUDE's REPLY!!!

[SBallerk2]

*shit acutally a couple of 100's (hey I been racing)

[SiGNAL748]

Originally Posted by SBallerk2

6-Speed's 5-speed's doesn't make difference in that case Truck's would be the fastest car's in the WORLD and we all know how they slow down TRAFFIC!!!...notice I said Base Prelude....not Si meaning a Base Prelude is from 97-01 with 190-200 HP from auto to stick and vary from years...97-99 190 auto 195 stick 200 stick 00-01 and 190 for auto....how is the Base RSX even close to the lude's power?????


also we can easly buy a Lude Type S motor (with a aftermarket here in the US for that engine) while there's no MArket for a Type R motor for the RSX to buy here in the US or parts cause car's to brake DOWN u know also would u want to swap a motor with probally less then 10 k on it with a Type S label on it???


this guy 6-Speed's boo whoooooo!!! : guess what It won't TAKE ME MORE THEN 3 GEARS to take u DOWN ON MY LUDE!!!


this stock TALK o.K. u guys win RSX-S is Acura's best car (non NSX) boo whooo let's give them a moment of slience

guess what my car is 10 years older with the SAME or better power (Torque) sure my car weight's more so i'm CHUBBY boo whooo what does a couple of thousands pounds do to the same power with more Torque to make up for it...?? yeah keep wishing for my Torque when I pull ahead of u in the long run...cause that's what a REAL RACE IS then will c who's car is really BETTER for the money and overall!! so now who wants to take my LUDE!!!!

GUESS WHAT UR ENGINE is OLD NEWS don't u feel stupid for buying old NEWS for 23k SHIT I know I WOULD!!!! u just bought a smaller engine with a Type S emblem who's the RICER!!!!

LUDE's REPLY!!!

Ok Guys, lets take a moment to evaluate this post.

The fact that the K20 was a six speed was only a factual statement, it was not part of my proposal to prove that it is in fact better. Which brings me to my next point. The fact that a car has more gears would most likely mean that each gear has a shorter ratio. By shortening the ratio, you have made it easier for the car to acccelerate; as we all know, longer gears are never in ANY case better for acceleration. If in fact having less gears; longer ratios, are better, why don't we all drive 3 speeds? In any case, remove this from the equation, you seem to view it as irrelevant anyway.

I never evaluated any car out of its proper counterpart. I would never compare an Si lude to a RSX-S; but only in their respective categories. Si lude to Base RSX. VTEC/Base Lude to RSX-S, and Type-S Lude to Type-R RSX/Integra. It is YOU that mixes and matches cars from different horsepower categories, in order to give the Prelude an unfavorable advantage.

You can also easily buy an type-r k20; in fact the same place you would get your type-s h22, example being hmotorsonline. There is in fact a vast aftermarket for the type-r k20, because you have to remember, its still your basic k20 head, and k20 block, just with different valvetrain; With the k-series now being available in almost all new generation Hondas, it is bound to have the aftermarket bigger than that of the B-Series; which already, outnumbers that of the H-Series by many times.

Now when you talk about "Acura's best car"; You do realize that Acura is in fact not a company itself, but only a division of HONDA, the dear makers of YOUR PRELUDE.

You seem to love bringing up the old topic of torque. Sure, the JDM H22 Type-S has a couple more lbs/ft than the JDM K20 Type-R. But you have to put into consideration the torque multiplication factor. You keep saying the lude would pull away in the long run, but it is in fact the rsx that would, due to this very factor. This is why our cars are able to take out V6 Camaros, which nearly double our peak Torque, but with low torque multiplication factor.

Don't bring ricers into this equation, it was never part of it to begin with.

Your rebuttal, please.

[crazy_canuck]

You have to be the biggest dumbfuck this forum has ever seen. Were you born retarded or did you grow like that?

A - Speed isn't everything, there's luxury and handling in the RSX.
B - The K20A has a bigger market than the H22A
C - Gear ratios of the shorer shifter 6 speed make a difference
D - If the lude is SO good how come in the few years the RSX has been out it has surpassed it in aftermarket support
E - Sure it has a few more pounds of torque, but that only helps in the short term, horsepower is the one that keeps you going.
F - The Prelude has to get over its weight penalty
G - Read the above post before you post a single thing then use proper english so I can understand what the hell you are saying (as wrong as it is) and learn about cars. Then post.

[mmont0]

Nice post there signal! Well written and informative. I just wish others would be just as informed and well mannered! But I guess I can only wish.


BTW, Sballerk, the only person you're busting is yourself. You're throwing around facts like a person and you're not making sense half the time.

I think I'll leave it at that. I don't plan on feeding the trolls anymore.

[SBallerk2]

wtf??? shorter ratio's better...that's the biggest B/S I have ever heard....??? Dude...longer ratio's is the way to go....the longer u can rev ur engine the faster it will move to next gEAR....(sure it isn't good for ur engine but heck racing isn't GOOD for ur engine PERIOD!!!) also y is doing 90 in 6 gear better then doing 90 in 3rd GEAR?? which my Lude does with no problem...

....call it what u WANT I just have RESPECT for my Lude as I wish everyone else had...since u all think there heavy and SLOW!! don't hate me cause of my weight hate cause of my better stats,handling,trip-out odemeter's,big ass in the back, mini-supra LOOK or should I say a supra has a mini Prelude LOOK('92 to '93 Supra)?? they do have weight on there side...with both car's being REAL FAST with a TURBO thrown in to a LUDE which power increase's much more from port and polish, turbo, super, since we do have bigger engine's...also I don't give a rat's azzz if ur engine has 6-speed's or 20 speed's all u need when u race is 3-4 gears NUFF SAID!!! heck if I hit 5th on my LUDE I'm asking for a trip to the GRAVE YARD!!!

How is it that the h22 pepp's have a tought time with aftermarket parts??? I can find parts for my LUDE as u can for ur k20 DUDE I do have a HONDA U KNOW

y the h22 is better off then a b16,GSR,k20....MOTOR SWAP

If I had a Hatchback it would be a not to swap the bigger faster h22 Type S then any Type R 1.8 teg or 2.0 RSX...just by the numbers the h22 would be the better fit...for mass take off over any RSX or teg engine on a hatchy... Imagine 170 Torque to the wheels of a HATCH BACK:

also GUYS i'm not trying to type an ESSAY for Mr.RSX just so u know!!

SIGNAL HAVE SOME RESPECT TO UR LUDE...just so u know it's one of Honda's daily driving faster car's out there!!!