eclipse vs. vette please explain

[n1kki6]

Originally posted by w8n4myevo

Just look at it this way, yes they have a modded 4cyl and you have a stock 8 which I believe is a 350 correct? Look at it this way, vettes have double the room for producing power,8 cyl vs. 4 cyl, 5.8 litres vs. 2.0 and 6 speed versus 5. And all you have on them is a half a second? In my book they are close. And btw, wait for the Evo VII and you will see a 2.0 smoke you. Nothing personal but america doesnt know how to make a car fast. You want to keep up with the everchanging and drastically improving import scene? Do yourself a favor and contact John Lingenfelter. I think he might be able to help you keep up.

your missing what i'm saying, the'yve spent about 4 grand more than me including the car and are still about a half second short, so how about i take that same 4 grand mod my car and then lets see how close it is, considering we've both spent the same amount of money. Now i know there is alot of people that have spent less and could whup my ass but i don't live by any of these people i live by a kid who spent a total of about 19k talks mad shit about being fast and hes only running 14.5, i think thats pretty pathetic considering that if i went and bought and eclipse modded it and spent a total of 19k it sure as hell would be faster than 14.5

[Gravitom]

Originally posted by n1kki6
your missing what i'm saying, the'yve spent about 4 grand more than me including the car and are still about a half second short, so how about i take that same 4 grand mod my car and then lets see how close it is, considering we've both spent the same amount of money. Now i know there is alot of people that have spent less and could whup my ass but i don't live by any of these people i live by a kid who spent a total of about 19k talks mad shit about being fast and hes only running 14.5, i think thats pretty pathetic considering that if i went and bought and eclipse modded it and spent a total of 19k it sure as hell would be faster than 14.5

Well, ricers seem to think that they engineered the car.

If you have a big V8 there are often certain disadvantages; less gas mileage, more weight, worse handling dynamics etc. But a Vette has a V8 and still handles better than most imports. So the end product is better despite its larger engine. So in that respect, what does it matter that you get more hp/liter? Somebody please answer this, I beg of you.

I can see people bitching about Mustangs and Trans Ams because they have a V8 and weigh a ton and handle like a broken shopping cart. But a Vette is super light and handles great, has a shitload of power and was cheaper than the imports that n1kki6 raced. Power/weight matters, price/performance matters, but hp/liter means NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

[YogsVR4]

Originally posted by n1kki6
YogsVR4 i seen you have a delorean, those are fun cars, my uncle has one but unfortunatly its an auto and don't have the turbos. By the way nice selection of cars, i love the 3kgt spyders, i wanted to buy one but you can't find them anywhere.

Thanks! The Delorean is kinda fun to drive around because they are extremely rare (at least around here). I the only other ones that I know about are a couple hundred miles away. If you ever want to find a spyder - go to www.3si.org and check the for sale section. We get on in there from time to time.

[n1kki6]

Originally posted by Gravitom

Power/weight matters, price/performance matters, but hp/liter means NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Exactly. i love imports, but its funny when their car is faster its all about my import is way better, but when their car is slower its always like yeah well my hp/liter is better, or you should have won you have a bigger engine. Almost every import i've raced has instigated the race and then when they lose they always have an excuse. Shit its 2002, its not about engine size anymore, the fast imports have proven that. But when an import loses to a v8 thats always the excuse. But if they win its always like a beat a v8. who really gives a fuck i don't race so i can make more excuses or talk shit, i race to see who is faster regardless of the car. I don't go try to race ferraris and then when i lose say well yo should of won your engines bigger. Thats just bitch shit.

[1320B4U]

Your vettes engine is larger then most, if not all Ferrari engines.

[1320B4U]

Thats HP/Liter for you.

[Gravitom]

If you race a Skyline and loose do you say "You only won cause you have a turbo"? Sounds ridiculous right?

Originally posted by 1320B4U
Your vettes engine is larger then most, if not all Ferrari engines.

Thank you Captain Obvious. Do you have any more nuggets of irrelevant information that you would like to share?

Price/performance > hp/liter

[1320B4U]

"I don't go try to race ferraris and then when i lose say well yo should of won your engines bigger."


Aparrantly he didn't know.


HP/Liter shows how tuned an engine is.

[Pennzoil GT-R]

Originally posted by 1320B4U

HP/Liter shows how tuned an engine is.

and how reliable. but lets not get into that one again huh Gravitom?!? j/k

[ECTurboGSX]

I agree that when they lose and make excuses sucks. But if you lost to me, wouldn't you ask how much money was in my engine?? I mean you did start this whole post dealing with how much money they had put in their car.

[94tegRS]

Originally posted by Gravitom
If you race a Skyline and loose do you say "You only won cause you have a turbo"? Sounds ridiculous right?

Originally posted by 1320B4U
Your vettes engine is larger then most, if not all Ferrari engines.
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Thank you Captain Obvious. Do you have any more nuggets of irrelevant information that you would like to share?

Price/performance > hp/liter

it is far form irrelevant, h said that if he lost to a ferrari he would ssay it is because it had a larger engine like if he ws one of thoise little boys with their eclipses he talks about, then this guy said that his engine is bigger thsan most if not all, because the guy was wrong and he was showing him this...

RELEVANT

[n1kki6]

thanks for the correction

[n1kki6]

i was basically just trying to say all the excuses are BS. Those who don't make excuses this is not pointed at you, this post is basically about how many unrespectable import drivers there are. Not all but a lot. treas talking shit about a small cock is a prime example.

[ECTurboGSX]

And I think most domestic drivers are ignorant, but I don't go on the corvette board and post that. I have a friend with a vette, who didn't think my car could hit a 13.9 and thinks that me telling him that i have seen videos of eclipses running 9s and 10s is internet fraud. We can make power, and we do make power. I can respect a domestic owner who makes there car faster, but I can't respect any closed minded loser who looks solely at displacement for answers.

[1320B4U]

Nicely said.