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#46
10-16-2002, 11:56 AM
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when are they gonna catch this dude?
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#47
10-17-2002, 01:25 AM
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This scares the living hell out of me. I have many friends in that general area, and the idea of losing one of them to some well-trained, rat-bastard of a marksman pisses me off. What's more is that, from the evidence that I have found, I believe this man to be well trained.
The whole Tarot card thing is out there, and definately doesn't fit my personal profile. I almost am led to suspect another person's foul play on that note. I haven't fully developed my idea yet as to whom it may be, but terrorist is not high on the list. I just pray that my friends are safe, and that when this GDAH is caught he is shot first in both knees so he can't run, then shot in both shoulders so he can't crawl, then shot in the gut and left to die so he knows the pain of suffering.
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10-17-2002, 06:40 PM
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You could never make this fucker suffer enough pain to equal the crushed spirits of the victims, their family, and their friends...
Justice will never be truly served unless there is a Hell for his soul to burn in eternally.
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10-17-2002, 06:46 PM
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10-17-2002, 07:48 PM
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put him in a room alone, no weapons.
then give me a bat and half an hour. he'll wish he was never born
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#51
10-17-2002, 08:12 PM
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There's a lot of talk of retribution in this thread.Not justice,but revenge.Nobody is asking why the guy is doing it,nobody is asking why it is so easy for him to do it,nobody is asking why the authorities aren't catching him.
Give me the man and his thoughts before you ask me to sit in judgement on him.Revenge is easy.Justice needs a considered approach.You can't tell me that killing people is wrong if that is the only punishment that you can offer for the crime.
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10-17-2002, 08:32 PM
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a couple guys at the high school i went to in california, built pipe bombs because they were bored. To me the bastard is a coward. and I believe in an eye for an eye. make the prick suffer because all he had to do was pull the trigger.
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#53
10-17-2002, 08:56 PM
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Who fucking cares why he's doing it?
No matter what his answer is, there's no justification for it. Even if he's just mental or whatever, he's still guilty.
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10-17-2002, 09:33 PM
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I can understand that people are fearful and upset about this coward. However, we shouldn't forget even in this dark hour that some of our basic rights include the right for justice. And that's justice for those who have been killed innocently and for anyone who is suspected of the crime.
He/she has the right to justice. This includes the right to a fair trial, due process, fair representation and access to qualified defence. And then if found guilty beyond reasonable doubt by a court of appropriate jurisdiction - then the applicable penalties under the applicable laws and the rights to appeal should apply. We elect legislators to pass laws that we agree with - laws that we consider fair and just - and for penalties that fit the crime. We shouldn't lose sight of that fact and that NO ONE IS GUILTY UNTIL THEY ARE PROVEN GUILTY BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. If he/she is convicted of these heinous crimes by a court of competent jurisdiction then the appropriate state and federal laws will apply. If he/she or others are sentenced to capital punishment by those laws, so be it - that is what the elected legislature has so decreed. The last thing we need is a kangaroo court or vigilantes or trial by media. This defeats the process of true justice. When he/she or them are caught, let them be tried in a fair court and then face the punishments that society has decreed fit the crime. Remember innocent people have been acquited on appeal, not everyone charged is found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and mistakes happen. I'd rather we took time and made sure we don't ruin another innocent person's life in our eagerness for retribution. Okay?
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#55
10-18-2002, 07:47 AM
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how crazy must this asshole be? he´s guilty and he MUSt be punished by law not like some of you with a bat or sth else
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#56
10-21-2002, 07:54 AM
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update on this...looks like hes shot another person this weekend....
Police find 'sniper message' Police say they received a message at the scene Police believe the sniper who has killed nine people in the Washington area may have left them a message at the scene of a shooting on Saturday. In a cryptic statement, police chief Charles Moose said: "To the person who left us a message at the Ponderosa (restaurant) last night. You gave us a telephone number. We do want to talk with you. Call us at the number you provided." To the person who left the message, it should make complete sense Police spokesman Joyce Utter Schools in the Ashland and Richmond areas of Virginia were closed on Monday "based on the volume of parent and community concern", officials said. About 200,000 students are affected. Police sources told American journalists they think it was the sniper who left them the message at the restaurant in Ashland, where a man was shot and seriously wounded. A strained-looking Chief Moose asked the media to carry his appeal to the mystery person "clearly and carry it often". He refused to take questions from reporters and police spokeswoman Joyce Utter, interviewed directly afterwards, gave no new details. Panic spreads "To the person who left the message, it should make complete sense. That is the only person Chief Moose wants to talk to," officer Utter said. Chief Police Moose did not take questions at the news conference Saturday's attack has still not been conclusively linked to the sniper who has spread panic in the states of Virginia, Maryland and the capital itself, but police said they were working on the assumption that the attacks were linked. Earlier in the inquiry, police condemned the media for reporting leaked information about a message possibly left by the sniper. Near a Maryland school where a boy was shot and wounded on 7 October, a tarot card was reportedly found with the words: "Dear Policeman, I am God." The Richmond Times-Dispatch newspaper said police sources at the scene of the latest shooting had indicated that more than one tarot card had been found. It also said that police were investigating the theory that the gunman may have used a bicycle in the Ashland attack and carried his gun in a backpack. After previous shootings, police said they were looking for a white van with a ladder rack. Single bullet The unidentified victim of Saturday's attack is critically ill in hospital but expected to survive. He was hit by a single shot to the abdomen as he left the Ponderosa diner with his wife in Ashland, 70 miles (110 kilometres) south of Washington. Surgeons were only able to remove the bullet from his body late on Sunday - it has been sent for tests. So far all the attacks positively linked to the sniper have involved a single bullet from a high-powered rifle. Confirmed sniper attacks 2-3 Oct - Five people killed in Montgomery County, Maryland 3 Oct - Man killed in Washington DC 4 Oct - Woman injured in Fredericksburg, Virginia 7 Oct - Boy injured in Prince George's County, Maryland 9 Oct - Man killed in Manassas, Virginia 11 Oct - Man killed in Fredericksburg, Virginia 14 Oct - Woman killed in Falls Church, Virginia If confirmed, the shooting will be the sniper's 12th attack since 2 October. The sniper last struck on 14 October, when he killed a 47-year-old woman in the car park of a DIY shop in Virginia. Her funeral was due to be held on Monday, Reuters news agency reported. Some of the victims have been shot while filling their cars with petrol, and some drivers are now reportedly paying $25 a time to have their cars refuelled for them. If Saturday's attack is definitively linked to the sniper, it will be the first such attack on a weekend and the furthest yet from the US capital.
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10-21-2002, 10:23 AM
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10-21-2002, 10:00 PM
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Just to reiterate what a couple of people have already said: no matter what anyone does to the person or persons who were responsible for these appalling attacks, it won't make it better. Personally, I think this kind of person is not the sort of person the rest of us want sharing our air, but that's not based on revenge or anger; it's just quite simply we do not need people like that alive and sharing the earth with us. However, nothing is gained by brutality directed at them. The victims' wounds aren't healed, the families don't get their loved ones back. There is no point.
Just to look at another point; whether this guy is "crazy". My professional opinion is that he/they is/are not. This is not the sort of crime that someone who is acutely mentally ill commits. The rare occasions when someone is violent on the basis of a mental illness are nothing like this. They usually involve someone close to the person, and are not this organised.
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#59
10-21-2002, 10:13 PM
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Actually I'd argue about brutality not helping. While some people it wouldn't help, I can honestly say if something like this happened to my family, I would feel better hearing the bastard scream for mercy as he's slowly lowered into a gator tank.
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10-21-2002, 10:28 PM
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 )This isn't even remotely close to the intensity for which I feel against the sniper, but I'm at a lack for any other analogy. Ever had a sibling or a friend steal a belonging??? Ever decide to steal something equally valuable of theirs in return??? Didn't you feel good knowing that justice was paid in part? Now which scenario makes you feel better: 1)Tell on them and have some adult say "Now, now Johnny, give it back." 2)Take something of theirs so they know how it feels, and get it back so that they suffered, too. I can tell you that you can feel like a bad person for doing the "eye for an eye" thing, but the good outweighs the bad, IMHO.
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